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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-16-2017, 08:14 AM Thread Starter
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Amsoil synthetic versus Yamalube Synthetic

Hi, Folks,

I've read a lot of the oil thread about synthetic and Amsoil and very little seems to be said about Yamalube synthetic.

I'm leaning toward Yamalube 15W-50 as a year round oil for here in southern Ontario where the temps range from 0C (32F) to 40C (104F) maximum in the riding season - this year I've ridden in every month with the low temp around 5C (40F) - that's where a 15W-50 oil shines.

Is the Yamalube actually refined by Yamaha and a really true 100% synthetic oil as good as any on the market??

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http://www.sportrider.com/oils-well-...ds-well-part-2

Here's some reading to help you understand the myths around motorcycle oils. Lots of claims but scientific evidence shows most are smoke and mirrors.
Go with any synthetic high quality brand oil, in the 5w40 to 20w50 range depending on your riding temps. Note that you should be changing these oils by 5000 kilometers max, do to the viscosity breakdown due to the shearing stress of motorcycle transmissions on the oil.
Conventional oil should be changed even sooner.
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an oil only has to perform like a synthetic oil to be called a synthetic oil, true synthetic oil is made from group 4 PAO base stock, research PAO in OIL and you'll understand it better. there really isn't a lot of true synthetic oils. any true full synthetic oil will cost you, most are 12 bucks and up for a quart, if your paying less than that you can pretty much bet its a blend, not 100% synthetic. the yamalube 15/50 full synthetic states it's "fortified with ester" leads me to believe it's a blend, i can't find what base stocks are used for that oil which is usually the case for blends, but i don't know for sure

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i don't believe it. you live in Canada where it gets as hot as 104 and no colder than 32???

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I'm pretty sure those are his extreme highs and lows of his riding season.
Much the same as my May 1 to Nov 1 riding season on the other side of the continent.<a href="http://s1194.photobucket.com/user/dcnuvi/media/VStar%20950/20170210_173258_zpsi10h8rex.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa376/dcnuvi/VStar%20950/20170210_173258_zpsi10h8rex.png" border="0" alt="Home photo 20170210_173258_zpsi10h8rex.png"></a>
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Finding the Best Motorcycle Oil: Part 2 | Sport Rider

Here's some reading to help you understand the myths around motorcycle oils. Lots of claims but scientific evidence shows most are smoke and mirrors.
Go with any synthetic high quality brand oil, in the 5w40 to 20w50 range depending on your riding temps. Note that you should be changing these oils by 5000 kilometers max, do to the viscosity breakdown due to the shearing stress of motorcycle transmissions on the oil.
Conventional oil should be changed even sooner.

Exactly!

Also all OEM Auto/Truck/Motorcycles don't make oil, they just have agreements with he big oil companies to sell it under their brand name.
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i don't believe it. you live in Canada where it gets as hot as 104 and no colder than 32???

Those are my riding minimums and maximum temps - It gets a lot colder than freezing and the max is about 35C (95F) but closer to the pavement temps are higher.

I've ridden in Jan, Feb and Mar but only when temps got to 5C (40F) - that is my absolute low - just too cold without wearing skidoo gear

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Some things to consider from one Canadian rider to another.
Mobil 1 is my top choice but I can't find the exact weight on sale I wish to use. I bought Castrol Edge from Canadian tire in 5w40 and 5w50 to replace my 10w40 motorcycle oil and Castrol GTX 10w40 I used in my first 5000 kms of riding my new V Star 950.
I decided on the high end car synthetics after much research and comparison to motorcycle specific oils.
So I changed out for 5w40 Edge in the fall just before storage.
Let me tell you I was stunned that I could notice a difference in starting, ease of clutch use, and smoothed out transmission shifting. So noticable it seemed like a different bike for those items.
With the cool mornings and moderate temps in spring and fall I will run that 5w40 synthetic. Far better than the recommended 10w40 conventional. For the hotest summer months I will try the 5w50 synthetic because, well just because. Longer life for heavier weight oil due to viscosity breakdown in the transmission.
So don't over think this, find the best oil available at Canadian Tire on sale and go for it.
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IT does not matter what oil you use as long as you change it regularly and it meets your vehicle specifications. Everything else is just hype. Yes some oils hold up to heat longer, some have different additives in them bla bla bla. The biggest thing is people not changing their oil enough or not using recommended API rated oil. I use synthetic oil and in the my truck change it every 5k and synthetic on the bike changed every 3k. The reason I do it sooner on the bike is it is air cooled so I know the oil takes more abuse. Don't sweat the small stuff. On your bike do not put any additives in the oil because it can damage the clutch pack or foam up and not lubricate as well as it should.

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