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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 05-19-2017, 01:11 AM Thread Starter
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Clutch Adjustment...Slipping

It doesn't seem to slip under hard acceleration, BUT, if I hit a bump, it seems to disengage for a second.

If I accidentally touch my toe on the shifter while cruising at a steady speed, it'll downshift.

If I accelerate hard, such as pulling back onto the highway after stopping, & running up the gears,
I get an odor of something...

If, say I accelerate hard in 2nd gear, then get off the throttle, as the compression slows me down,
I'll get what feels like a partial disengagement as it slows - sorta like a "Slipper" Clutch, but it doesn't slip at high revs, only when I get to the lower part of the powerband.

I want to adjust it at the handlebar, which way should I turn it?

Any help, or opinions are appreciated.

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When I first got the bike, I had trouble getting it to go into 3rd gear. That seems to have worked itself out until yesterday.

Yesterday, I couldn't get it into 3rd with my toe-I had to stomp with my heel shifter to get
it to shift- and only that 1 time.
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when you hit a bump are you sure the rear tire is not coming off the ground? It doesnt take much of a bump, esp if you are on the throttle when you hit it.

I miss a shift every once in a while on my VS650, and sometimes it will downshift all by itself. I think its me not kicking it into gear all the way.

Unless its happening all the time I wouldnt worry about it.

Do you have really stiff toes on your boots, that prevent you from feeling the shifter response?
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when you hit a bump are you sure the rear tire is not coming off the ground? I don't believe it is. It doesnt take much of a bump, esp if you are on the throttle when you hit it.

I miss a shift every once in a while on my VS650, and sometimes it will downshift all by itself. I barely touch it I think its me not kicking it into gear all the way.

Unless its happening all the time I wouldnt worry about it.

Do you have really stiff toes on your boots, that prevent you from feeling the shifter response?
Yes the toes are firm, but I still can feel the shift. Keep in mind, I had to stomp on the heel part of the shifter to get it to go into 3rd.

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Yes the toes are firm, but I still can feel the shift. Keep in mind, I had to stomp on the heel part of the shifter to get it to go into 3rd.
if thats while the bike is moving that does not sound good.

the transmission will sometimes not shift when the bike is stopped, because of the way the gears mesh

but if the back wheel is turning and the bike is hard to shift, either your shift lever is bent or wonky, or something is wrong inside the case.
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I bought the bike, a leftover 2014, a couple months ago. It's a few miles short of 1,700 miles now.

When I got it, several times I had to really expend effort to get it into 3rd, but that seemed to go away until the last time I mentioned in my post.

BTW, getting into 3rd just before, & after the stomp was no problem.

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Update:
Apparently, the clutch was way out of adjustment.

The friction zone started about 3/4 to an inch off the grip.
Adjusted it further out-what a difference.

No more slippage, and it's like adding horsepower to the motor.

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I never thought to ask about the free play on the clutch lever

it must have been huge!

good find, that explains everything. Bike will not shift right if clutch is not fully disengaged (pulled in).
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I never thought to ask about the free play on the clutch lever

it must have been huge!

good find, that explains everything. Bike will not shift right if clutch is not fully disengaged (pulled in).
Someone on another Forum mentioned the free play, I hadn't thought about it 'till then.

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Update:
Apparently, the clutch was way out of adjustment.

The friction zone started about 3/4 to an inch off the grip.
Adjusted it further out-what a difference.

No more slippage, and it's like adding horsepower to the motor.
actually the further out the friction zone is the more chance of it slipping. the further in the friction zone is the more chance of it not completely disengaging, i like to keep the friction zone as close as i can get it without any dragging, it's easier to slow maneuver and take off on steep hills with a tighter friction zone

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Now that I think about it Pauli is right.

If the clutch lever is adjusted too far out it will be slipping all the time

if its adjusted too far in it wont disengage all the way and the bike will be hard to shift and will pull when you stop.

so it cant cause both problems, but it will cause one or the other.

It is possible your clutch cable is hanging up, frayed or rusted inside the cable run. That can cause problems in both direction.

When you try to pull the lever in the cable will jam and feel like its hitting the stop
and when you try to release it will hang up and the clutch will slip.

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