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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 11-30-2017, 08:12 AM Thread Starter
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A funny thing happened.....

It was a clear sunny 68 degree day yesterday and since I had the day off we went for a 2.5 hour ride.
We rode to the Spring City Tn area where Iíd heard of a quaint little restaurant named Winsteads American grill from a few fellow LEOís.
As we pulled into the parking lot there were two HDís two spaces to our left and both riders exited the restaurant as we dismounted our Yammy. I graciously nodded and spoke to them as both older gentleman looked at our bike and we immediately received the Ďharley snubí. They mounted their rides and sped off. I chuckled knowing they didnít represent the majority of HD owners, and Iím sharing this not to offend anyone here that owns/rides an HD, however it did make me appreciate being a metric owner that much more. In all the years Iíve ridden off and on, Iíve never been snubbed by a metric owner. I also enjoy the fact I paid half of what they did for theirs and I have great reliability to boot. There are no longer any 100% made in America bikes, as HD claims. My theory is that weíre all bikers regardless of brand. Why canít we just all ride together? It was one of things that make you go um....


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I switched to HD from metric, my wife still rides 650 Custom. I try to wave every biker on the road (if I can) and I didn't really care if some of those HD riders with a "Harley brain decease" didn't respond to my waving when I was on my old Stryker. So, just ignore them Keith. It is not a brand - it is just dumb people, so why to waste your time on stupid folks?

I agree with Red Whine. I know one guy at work who is an HD snub. He also drives a truck like a "true American" except his truck is a Nissan Frontier lol.

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I had a guy on a HD compliment one of my saddle bags while still sneering at the bike it was mounted on. Personally, I will wave to anyone on two wheels. I got a giant smile from a girl on a scooter the other day as I passed her because I waved and I'm sure she was taken completely by surprise. I don't care what you ride, just ride!
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xenophobia: fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign

going back thousands of years there is an aspect of human understanding that allows us to realize, that there is only one human species on Earth, regardless of where national boarders are drawn, or genetic variations are defined as race

I value human accomplishment and achievement no matter where it originates and thrives. If one culture is better at making vehicles or mass producing electronics, or creating new music or other artforms, or advancing technology that allows us to better understand the nature of our lives, the world we live in, and the universe itself, then I will be cheering them on and supporting them 100%.

If you follow this far, you can take it one step further: there is only one life form on Earth. Just as our bodies are made up of individual cells, some that are connected directly together, and some that are transported freely about in our blood stream, life on Earth is comprised of individuals that together form the entirety of DNA life on the planet.

The life that is me, built with in-animate atoms and elements, is the same life in all living things: DNA.

We understand the science behind it today. When a cell divides the DNA un-winds into two halves, and the atoms from each half are duplicated. What was one DNA cell becomes two, but each is half of the original, so there is no new life, there is no different life, there is no separate life - it is the same life expanding beyond physical contact. If the original cell was named Oscar, which of the two cells after the divide is now Oscar? They both are.

People realized this thousands of years ago before the science was understood, and they understood it perfectly. There is only one Life on Earth.

The idea that a brain cell would look at a toe-nail cell and think it was better than the other - is absurd.

The idea that a person in one part of the Earth would shun the production or technology of the people in another another part of the Earth is equally absurd.

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I had a guy on a HD compliment one of my saddle bags while still sneering at the bike it was mounted on. Personally, I will wave to anyone on two wheels. I got a giant smile from a girl on a scooter the other day as I passed her because I waved and I'm sure she was taken completely by surprise. I don't care what you ride, just ride!


Amen to that! Iím definitely not offended, it was just funny to me as I wave at the moped riders etc. I donít care what youíre riding, weíre outdoors and enjoying the ride.


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... it was just funny to me as I wave at the moped riders etc. .
Some of those scooters have bigger engines than my VS650 - they are like little full fairing goldwings.

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Some people love motorcycles and some people latch onto an image. Unfortunately there are some makes/models that have the tendency to attract a huge portion of the latter.
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Being a finance guy and biker rider I like the keep up with "the numbers" in the biking world. Part of the reason for Harley's 10% drop in sales in Q2 of 2017 and still continuing to have bad sales numbers is because of the HD snobs. HD was built on brand loyalty and the thought that no bike was as good or even close to a HD. Well, that kind of thinking did well for the baby boomers and some of the later generations. But their practice of overpriced parts/gear and overpriced bikes has started to come around and ultimately kill their sales. The younger generations such as mine (the lazy generations) don't care about the "brand" of the bike or how big the bikes are. These generations want smaller, lighter, cheaper, better mpg bikes. We don't want to pay $100 for a simple oil change or $500 for a paper thin leather jacket with just a name. I can get a new vstar 650 for like $3k-$5k, or somewhere close to that. Can do all the work myself, change every ounce of oil in the bike for <$100. According to the service pricing menu for Beach House HD in Shallotte NC. Just an engine oil change is $101 for a sportster. This is why HD has had to start making smaller bikes that cost less and why they bought Ducati. Sorry for the rant lol, but yeah I've had HD guys do the same thing, especially at bike rallies. I just smile and walk away

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... This is why HD has had to start making smaller bikes that cost less and why they bought Ducati...
!!!!!!!WHAT?!!!!! That went through? I didn't keep up with that story but the last I heard VW wasn't going to sell and out of the potential investors I figured HD would be the last one to buy.
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Being a finance guy and biker rider I like the keep up with "the numbers" in the biking world. Part of the reason for Harley's 10% drop in sales in Q2 of 2017 and still continuing to have bad sales numbers is because of the HD snobs. HD was built on brand loyalty and the thought that no bike was as good or even close to a HD. Well, that kind of thinking did well for the baby boomers and some of the later generations. But their practice of overpriced parts/gear and overpriced bikes has started to come around and ultimately kill their sales. The younger generations such as mine (the lazy generations) don't care about the "brand" of the bike or how big the bikes are. These generations want smaller, lighter, cheaper, better mpg bikes. We don't want to pay $100 for a simple oil change or $500 for a paper thin leather jacket with just a name. I can get a new vstar 650 for like $3k-$5k, or somewhere close to that. Can do all the work myself, change every ounce of oil in the bike for <$100. According to the service pricing menu for Beach House HD in Shallotte NC. Just an engine oil change is $101 for a sportster. This is why HD has had to start making smaller bikes that cost less and why they bought Ducati. Sorry for the rant lol, but yeah I've had HD guys do the same thing, especially at bike rallies. I just smile and walk away


Excellent point brittct. At bike rallies I do the same. I compliment the owners no matter the brand if I find their bike to my liking. I also have seen the same trend youíre speaking of.


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