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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-14-2017, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
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Distracted and no Headlights

This is a great example of a person who should have their DL revoked and be forced to ride the bus for a few years.

Driving his big Dodge truck in the dark on the freeway with no headlights, not even DRL's, and staring down at his phone.

I don't think he ever knew I was there at any point in this video. It is hard to see, but he was looking down at his phone as I passed, just oblivious.

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not sure if this is one of those situations where its good or bad to 'like' your post

good catch - It pays to be aware of how nuts the other people can be out there.
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Great reminder to always do the shoulder checks and not rely on mirrors. Thanks for posting this.
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I have never had a mirror that didn't vibrate too much to see in. always shoulder check, even in a cage.
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not to argue, but i watched it several times and couldn't tell if the driver was on a phone. i never saw a phone, and can't definitively say the person is even looking down. and as for the headlights, they should be on at this point, but it looks like the sun had just recently started to set and there are a lot of lights on the road so the driver might not have realized it was dark enough already for theirs to be on and that everyone else already had theirs on. i'm willing to give this person some benefit of the doubt rather than want to take away their license for a few years.
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This is a great example of a person who should have their DL revoked and be forced to ride the bus for a few years.



Driving his big Dodge truck in the dark on the freeway with no headlights, not even DRL's, and staring down at his phone.



I don't think he ever knew I was there at any point in this video. It is hard to see, but he was looking down at his phone as I passed, just oblivious.



https://youtu.be/Y8p-lWIe1w0


I agree, sheesh! Unfortunately I see this a lot at work which is why I go through citation books quickly. Thanks for sharing this with us.


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I think Klurejr is saying he was clearly able to see the driver was looking down at something (phone), but it does not show well on the video.

When the low light AGC kicks on with video cameras the resolution and frame rate slows down and you are no longer getting full HD video.

I can clearly tell when a driver coming the other way is looking down at a phone, even when they are wearing glasses and you cant see their eyes - its the way they tip their head.

I think in many cases it would be better if we let people dial their phones and look at them while driving, as long as they hold the phone up by the windshield and have SOME peripheral vision out the windshield.
The way that everyone is holding their phones down on their lap while driving is taking a bad situation and making it worse, because they are trying to hide it.

People have always been distracted while driving: playing with the radio, looking at maps, Ham Radio and CB radio owners, looking for an address. The difference is people where not trying to hide what they were doing back then. When I first started driving back in the '70s I surprized myself a few times while looking at a map, and suddenly realizing I had not been 'looking' out the windshield for several seconds, but I was driving just fine. You can drive pretty well with your perpihial vision. Try it some time when you are a passenger in a car. Stare at the rear view mirror and see how much you can catch out the windshield.
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not to argue, but i watched it several times and couldn't tell if the driver was on a phone. i never saw a phone, and can't definitively say the person is even looking down. and as for the headlights, they should be on at this point, but it looks like the sun had just recently started to set and there are a lot of lights on the road so the driver might not have realized it was dark enough already for theirs to be on and that everyone else already had theirs on. i'm willing to give this person some benefit of the doubt rather than want to take away their license for a few years.
It is super hard to see in the video because I just briefly glanced at him and in the dark the GoPro is not the best. However this was at 6:15AM, the sun was rising. I have no idea how long he was driving, but it pitch black about 20 min before this.

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People have always been distracted while driving: playing with the radio, looking at maps, Ham Radio and CB radio owners, looking for an address. The difference is people where not trying to hide what they were doing back then. When I first started driving back in the '70s I surprized myself a few times while looking at a map, and suddenly realizing I had not been 'looking' out the windshield for several seconds, but I was driving just fine. You can drive pretty well with your perpihial vision. Try it some time when you are a passenger in a car. Stare at the rear view mirror and see how much you can catch out the windshield.
There is some truth to this, but I am fine with a no tolerance rule as well. Driving is a privilege not a right.
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I have a 2 meter, 70cm and 10 meter radio in my truck. The difference in radios and cell phones is that radios are not full duplexing such as a phone. Other operators know mobiles do not answer calls immediately meaning you pause and leave breaks for emergency traffic and other operators can break in which is what you are supposed to do.
You should have punched his mirror and broke it.
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So you are not working CW on 80 meters on the highway at 80mph?!

Ive had my license since 1980, but have not owned any equipment in decades.
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