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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-26-2015, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
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Good thing I am an ATGATT rider, because the extra cushion under the cheeks buys me another 10 minutes in the saddle. I am good for about 40 minutes/30 miles on the stock 1100 seat.

I have made it a point to stand at stop lights, and teeter the bike between my thighs to give my arse a chance to recover a little bit.

A guy at work has a 2005 Road Star V4. It has the Mustang seat package. This is the first aftermarket seat I have ever sat on. I was surprised by two things:

1.) How much more support is built into it (not just a 1" x 1" area on your kiester). I feel support under my legs AND butt.

2.) How firm it was. I hope that is part of buying the rider some more time behind the bars, by relenting slowly over time on a long ride, but maintaining the necessary support.

I would love to try an Ultimate seat…still first on my list…but would like to try a Cobra also.

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Changing your underwear will buy you some more saddle time, also. I don't mean to just grab some clean underwear (should go without saying). I mean get some undergarments made to keep the raging river from running down the crack of your arse. Iron Butters all over swear by at least some method to control monkey butt.

The stock seat sucks, but monkey butt can follow you from seat to seat if you're predestined to have that problem.

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Just something to mention while at the same time staying out of debating the merits of all the seat options.

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I find I'll manage much longer in the saddle, but that is only possible because of an upright sitting stance with hollow back. I have to do that in any case, because of my back problems.

The way I have achieved this on my current ride, XV1900A (Strat/Roadliner), is by adding risers, with a few inches extra of pullback. On my previous ride, XVS1300A (V-Star 1300), I exchanged the standard handlebar for a touring bar, to achieve the same. This also allows me to take up varying riding positions, if I feel like doing so. Prior to adding the extra pullback, I was forced to sit bent forwards, in one postion only, and that generally just kills my back. Now I ride in comfort, and it actually is having a beneficial effect on my back - when in pain, go for a ride, and all will be well again for a few hours up to a few days even.

Having said all this, I would like to get a more comfortable saddle for sure, ideally one which is padded, and which provides space for the tail bone, so it doesn't bear all the weight. I am a bit worried that neither the Ultimate, Mustang, or Corbin saddles provide this however. I'd love to hear if there are other solutions for a saddle providing this kind of extra comfort .

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post #4 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-27-2015, 10:03 AM
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Wim I have both rider and passenger seats from Ultimate and I ride the v star 1300 as well. I love the Ultimate seat very comfortable and so does the wife compared to stock seats. I can't speak on other brands but if you decide to buy an Ultimate seat or any other aftermarket seat you will not be disappointed. I hated the stock seat very very uncomfortable on long rides the stock seat actually hurt my lower back and my butt used to go numb...not anymore oh did I mention I love my Ultimate seat👍Good luck

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Both me and my neighbor have Stratoliners. I have the mustang seat, his came with the ultimate seat.

The mustang is simple, firm, supportive and comfy.

The Ultimate is puffy, fluffy, semi supportive and comfy in a padded way.

The mustang seat also sits you low, probably lower than the factory seat or close to it. The ultimate I would say lifts you over an inch higher or close to it.

My opinion, both have a similar comfort level but the mustang gives you support to keep you placed where you sit.

Oh, the puffyness of his ultimate seat rode up on the gas tank and rubbed the paint dull. Not a big deal maybe but a note worthy comment.

End of the day, you will like either over the stock seat.
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Just a couple of words of caution on taking seat advice.....

1.) Make sure to only take the advice of people riding the same bike as you. Every different bike has different ergonomics so seat design changes with every manufacturer.

2.) Understand that everyone's butt is different, so the only way to know for sure before purchase is to sit on one and go for a ride.

To be 100% sure your seat is going to be comfortable, go to a place like Rick's Seats in Washington State (most areas have a place like that, just ask around) and have your seat custom built from the stock pan to fit you. You'll probably pay about the same or just a little bit more than you would to the guys who make the one size fits all seats, but you'll be custom fitted and able to make those 8-10 hour riding days with a smile....and there will be no need to "debate" what seat is the best (which IMO is like asking which song is the best....there is never one answer to suit everyone).

PS......if you are going to buy a "one size fits all" don't leave out the Corbin. Most of my 1100 riding buddies prefer them to the others, or have them reworked slightly for a custom fit.

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1.) Make sure to only take the advice of people riding the same bike as you.
i disagree. even though one seat's manufacturer may place you in slightly different ergonomic positions depending on which bike model the seat is on, the overall comfort level of that particular seat is not likely to change drastically. to discard other people's observations of their seats simply because they ride on a different model is depriving yourself of a lot of useful opinions in helping you choose the right seat for you.

having said that, i have a mustang wide solo seat and after 800 miles in one day on the saddle, the only part of my body that wasn't aching or fatigued was my butt. that's my endorsement.

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i disagree. even though one seat's manufacturer may place you in slightly different ergonomic positions depending on which bike model the seat is on, the overall comfort level of that particular seat is not likely to change drastically. to discard other people's observations of their seats simply because they ride on a different model is depriving yourself of a lot of useful opinions in helping you choose the right seat for you.

having said that, i have a mustang wide solo seat and after 800 miles in one day on the saddle, the only part of my body that wasn't aching or fatigued was my butt. that's my endorsement.
Sorry Bevo I have to disagree with you, the model of bike it is on makes a world of difference. It`s like comparing apples to oranges, I have had many bikes with Mustang seats, most have been the most comfortable riding seat ever. I have the 1300 Tourer and have the Mustang seat on it and it`s terrible, not much above the stock seat IMO. I recommend only the opinions of the model you have.

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I have to agree with Bevo. I've had this Ultimate seat for a long time now and it has made a huge difference in comfort. I love the seat. I took my buddy's advice and he rides a Roadstar. And he loves the seat too I'm glad I took his advice
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Sorry Bevo I have to disagree with you, the model of bike it is on makes a world of difference. It`s like comparing apples to oranges, I have had many bikes with Mustang seats, most have been the most comfortable riding seat ever. I have the 1300 Tourer and have the Mustang seat on it and it`s terrible, not much above the stock seat IMO. I recommend only the opinions of the model you have.
Most feel the Mustang sucks on the 1100 too...unless you like being pushed into the fuel tank....and raised up a couple inches and it puts too much pressure on your inner thighs. I rode one for about 20 minutes and couldn't get off fast enough. My chip seat with minimal padding was much better.

I guess the real test is to do a couple 8 hours day in the saddle....if you can happily get into the saddle on day 3 for another 8 hours....it's a pretty good fit.

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