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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 07-22-2018, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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Yamaha explains the many reasons for going with a V-Twin, and not the V-4

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Hi there Joe! Just thought I’d let you know there’s an issue playing this.
I had to copy and past the address to open into YouTube & play it.
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I just clicked the link and it played fine. No problem.

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ChiefGunner ... If you are watching this at work. Some work places have proxies that slow down the playing in one web browser vs another.

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ChiefFunner ... If you are watching this at work. Some work places have proxies that slow down the playing in one web browser vs another.
Chief “FUNNER”? Lol!
I’m ALWAYS at work Scrumdown.
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Chief “FUNNER”? Lol!
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I also found interesting the comment that the 1854 c.c. V-Twin makes more torque than the V-Max. It is clearly stated, and not merely implied.

So, less engine height, better fuel mileage (being seen by most all posting owners), greater torque than both V-4 versions of the prior and current model that carries that engine, and 110 mph, on any bike, is 110 mph, if you need to run down the road at that speed. I don't...now, with this bike so much fun to ride and operate, I have in fact (as I stated already) dropped my average highway speed, 15 mph lower) than my mostly always, 75 mph cruise on my Wing....for I am so enjoying the entire ride envelope, getting there faster, is no longer a ride equation. It is the total ride, that now is the equation. Same feelings for my co-riding wife. We are relaxed, love the road feel of this bike, love the 'thrum' of the matured pipes....simply love the whole envelope. 60 mph cruise is now very cool with us....BUT, I will use the full torque and throttle for passing on two lanes, always. When I need that performance, man...it is there!

The actual comment, not implied, that the older V-4 and its current version, the Max, need twice the rpm to bring on that engine configuration's max torque was also a 'ear note' for me. They need over 6,000 rpm, while my SVTC produces max torque at less than 2,700 rpm. So more actual torque, at half the rev's needed by the V-4's, and a more quiet less high buzz output. There were many reasons that they went to this type of motor and NOT as so many current V-4 owners like to espouse...they did it because it was a 'cheaper' route. Not at all....that is just plain 'fake news'...lol.

BTW Chief, they clearly low-balled (really low balled...) the estimated MPG figure, for even in this video, he clearly again stated that we claim 34 mpg, but other riders "have gotten more". No kidding sir...no kidding, 'have we got more!!!!'

Like 33 percent more, all the time...every tank...

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Hi there Joe! Just thought I’d let you know there’s an issue playing this.
I had to copy and past the address to open into YouTube & play it.
Hi Tony...on the posted link, I merely click on it, and it takes me to the YouTube running of it. Could be just twitches, here and there, lol.

A great vid, that should be posted on the other forum's SVTC board....I can't...I'm not a member.

It really debunks some 'fake' news, lol...and inaccurate current opinions held by some present V4 owners on the 'hows and why' of this bike...and WHY Yamaha put in the engine specification they did. The V-4 simply would not have enabled them to produce the bike they wanted to release to market.

I am seeing a steady and paced 'uptake' by other riders to replace their whatever rides with the SVTC and Eluder. It is a very expensive motorcycle, and that in my mind, is what is making it a slower up-take than for ANY other reason. It is a LOT of money! If you can afford one...it is a LOT of motorcycle... I have not read on any site, anywhere, an SVTC or Eluder buyer's remorse post. I have seen tons of Honda ST1800 buyer's remorse and 'for sale'....posts. Yamaha got this bike right...and right outta the gate. It is expensive...and the ridership buying them, makes that select. Every month, more and more will come onto the forums that support the SVTC and Eluder...and slowly will swell the ranks.

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I also found interesting the comment that the 1854 c.c. V-Twin makes more torque than the V-Max. It is clearly stated, and not merely implied.

So, less engine height, better fuel mileage (being seen by most all posting owners), greater torque than both V-4 versions of the prior and current model that carries that engine, and 110 mph, on any bike, is 110 mph, if you need to run down the road at that speed. I don't...now, with this bike so much fun to ride and operate, I have in fact (as I stated already) dropped my average highway speed, 15 mph lower) than my mostly always, 75 mph cruise on my Wing....for I am so enjoying the entire ride envelope, getting there faster, is no longer a ride equation. It is the total ride, that now is the equation. Same feelings for my co-riding wife. We are relaxed, love the road feel of this bike, love the 'thrum' of the matured pipes....simply love the whole envelope. 60 mph cruise is now very cool with us....BUT, I will use the full torque and throttle for passing on two lanes, always. When I need that performance, man...it is there!

The actual comment, not implied, that the older V-4 and its current version, the Max, need twice the rpm to bring on that engine configuration's max torque was also a 'ear note' for me. They need over 7,000 rpm, while my SVTC produces max torque at less than 2,700 rpm. So more actual torque, at half the rev's needed by the V-4's, and a more quiet less high buzz output. There were many reasons that they went to this type of motor and NOT as so many current V-4 owners like to espouse...they did it because it was a 'cheaper' route. Not at all....that is just plain 'fake news'...lol.

BTW Chief, they clearly low-balled (really low balled...) the estimated MPG figure, for even in this video, he clearly again stated that we claim 34 mpg, but other riders "have gotten more". No kidding sir...no kidding, 'have we got more!!!!'

Like 33 percent more, all the time...every tank...


Has anyone mention fun yet, I mean really this bike is fun to ride. What a sports car feel, darn it I like this bike, it's fun, real fun, its the most agile large bike I have ever owned.
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Has anyone mention fun yet, I mean really this bike is fun to ride. What a sports car feel, darn it I like this bike, it's fun, real fun, its the most agile large bike I have ever owned.
Oh yes...at least I have mentioned over a dozen times on forums, how much fun this bike is!!!!

That, is the true one main reason that I/we now run on the highways at 60 mph, with the music and Intercom in both helmets. Also, Bitchin' Betty, if the Nav is on...lol

This bike also for myself, is the most fun bike I have every ridden. You have it all, in this bike...sportiness of handle, great road feel, smooth as a multi cylinder, the 'emotional' ride that all my Wings lacked. You have it all in this bike. I have not (gawd's honest truth) ridden my Kawasaki Sport Tour 2004 750 four, ZR-7S, since I got the SVTC on May 6th. I feel as guilty as all get out, about that...and I will have to come to some kind of reasoning and conclusion. To have a King-class, dedicated grand luxury tour bike, that satisfies my sport-ride part of my personality...was simply unheard of to date. I have always owned two motorcycles for that very reason. I needed to take some 'twisty time out there...and hitched a leg over my Sport Tour. I needed to go to the other side of the Continent for a great cup of coffee...and sip by the ocean....the leg slipped over the dedicated Grand Tour ride.

Now? Now?????? Both needs are met by one ride. I have a redundant motorcycle sitting in my garage, costing me money, and not being taken out. I have to make a decision.... and sometime will.... I love my Kawasaki...but, since owning the SVTC...I have not taken it out once....and that's not a good reason to have it sitting there. The SVTC will rock you, upon any road, you want to lead her out onto...any road....

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