The problem is that it’s “cowpuc”. He’s made all sorts of claims about what this bike does or doesn't “have” I’ve shot down a number of them AND much of what he said was from “assumption” NOT based on ownership. All he had was a short demo ride and was shifting the bike ALL WRONG to avail it of it’s power band. He completely had ZERO idea how to access or utilize functions but had no problem complaining about something he was ignorant of.
He might know 1st Gen Ventures, but he DOES NOT know the 3rd Gen.
To put it frankly, he’s nothing more than sour grapes because he didn’t get a V4 in the new Venture.
The 1st Gen is more of a “Sport Touring” with MUCH LESS storage capacity and much less room and comfort for the long haul. If he wants a Sport Touring bike, Honda made one. Yamaha went true Grand Touring. It’s got more than enough power for two up, loaded & pulling a trailer Touring.
This is the same individual who complained about pricing of the SVTC. If you’ve seen the condition of his 1st Gen then the issue of “affordability” comes into clear focus.
I’d strongly advise against hanging a lot of weight on the advice of a “Demo rider” vs an actual OWNER.
Yamaha could NOT have given a V4 in this bike without some real problems. It would’ve increased the overall weight & being top heavy would’ve severely affected handling. Also, the V4 is a top down intake which limits gas tank space (less mileage range). The cost of the 1700cc V4 would also have added about $3-4K overall. Then because of size/weight you have to limit available storage area. NONE of these are factors he’s considered in his naysaying, whining & pining for a big V4 Model.
I TOTALLY get and can clearly see where your coming from Sir! My wife and I have been sitting around watching his video's on and off here all day and, while some are definitely humorous and it appears the two of them may have covered a few miles on the Ventureres (photochopping has become an art form so, like you ChiefGunner - I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight on betting his ride stories hold merit, especially on a bike like that
- they are funny though
)! His bike is a total compromised mess of a thing
. The term, "Sanford and Son Special" comes to our mind
.. The first video here should explain to any other viewers what Chief is talking about
. TAKE A LOOK, WHAT A DISASTER!
I have to say though, as far as my original post here, the comparison video's between the two bikes with his explanation of the point he is trying to make accompanied by the information in the copy/paste from his YouTube posting does make some sense. At least it was actual and factually based with video proof instead of just an opinion. Of course, that is, again, totally dependent on whether or not things were altered even in those videos..
Here is another video of his that I was just watching that shows the internals of the engine. My mechanical background with motors and especially things as advanced as this new Star Yamaha V-Twin is extremely limited but this video seems pretty straight forward and, looking at the replies he recieved below the video and the comments, it appears to be fairly accepted. Have any of you folks been inside of one of these monster torquer 113's enough to know that he really is even talking about the SVTC motor in the last two video's like he proclaims?