Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Cape Coral, Florida
Nothing wrong with sharing prices, every manufacture cars and motorcycles discount end of year and over stock models.
I don't think the first, second and third generation owners did Yamaha any favors with their response to the new Star Venture, they all seem to be upset over one issue, Yamaha did not use the liquid cooled V-4, but Yamaha has already tried that route three times and it just did not pan out.
I know a certain first gen owner who made videos of the new Star Venture and all he really did was complain about the engine and wanting a liquid cooled V-4, yet that first gen owner never buys a new motorcycle, he only buys several year old to decades old models as he along with many other first, second and third gen owners have stated on another pay forum that they would never buy a new motorcycle as their price points are down in the $2,500 to at most $5,000 range.
So none of those prior owners are even on the radar to purchase one of these bikes anyway but their ride reviews and videos all were very uncomplimentary to this new Star Venture all because Yamaha did not use the liquid cooled V-4.
If current owners just report their real ownership experience of this motorcycle I think a lot of people would be enticed to purchase one.
In my case this is the first motorcycle I have not changed the seat on because if just works for me, the engines power stock with no modifications beats my 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour and 2016 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited both of which had full stage one set ups, intakes, exhaust and tuners.
Ranking this 2018 Yamaha Star Venture with the 2016 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited and the 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour I would rank them this way.
Technology being a factor:
1. 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
2. 2016 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited
3. 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour
The Victory did not have all the technology on it the other two motorcycle have so that explains why it is third.
Performance, comfort, maintenance overall ownership experience
1. 2018 Yamaha Star Venture
2. 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour
3. 2016 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited
The Yamaha just has more performance off the show room floor than the Victory and Harley, to even start to come close to the stock Yamaha Star Venture performance wise you have to spend a couple of thousand dollars doing full stage one upgrades and the Yamaha Star Venture still out performs the Victory and the Harley.
Comfort the Yamaha Star Venture is very comfortable and as I said this is the first motorcycle I have not changed the seat on. So again to approach the comfort of the Yamaha Star Venture you spend another five hundred to eight hundred dollars on a quality seat.
Maintenance I will give the Yamaha Star Venture and the Victory Cross Country Tour a tie on that one as both are shared sump systems that are easy to service with oil filters that are easy to reach and do not make a big mess when servicing. The Harley Davidson Ultra Limited has three sumps to change all taking three different fluids. You can use motor oil in all three sumps but in my experience that is not a good solution. The first oil change on my Harley Davidson Ultra Limited was at the dealer as it was the 500 mile service and they used their synthetic SYN3 oil in all three sumps. By the time it was ready for the next oil change at the 5,000 mile mark the primary was making all kinds of racket. So I went with the Redline power packs for Harley's that uses 20w-50 oil for the engine, uses Redline primary oil for the primary and used their transmission oil for the transmission and that worked far better stopping the primary from making a racket. The oil filter on the Harley is buried at the front of the engine and when you remove it it makes a mess, you can by a special funnel to try and catch the oil from the filter but even that does not catch all of it, some people use tin foil trying to catch the oil but regardless the Harley Davidson is the hardest to service because you have to remove the primary cover to add the new primary oil and it is messy no matter how hard you try to catch the oil from the oil filter.
Overall ownership experience the Yamaha is just a pleasure to ride, it has power, it handles like a motorcycle half its weight at speed, it is very well balanced making slow speed and parking lot speed easy to handle, when you are in a spot where it is hard to move the motorcycle you have the sure park system to back up and move forward with, rider and passenger comfort is the best I have ever had on a motorcycle and that includes my 1989 GL1500 Goldwing, 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour and 2016 Harley Davidson Ultra Limited. I spent over two thousand dollars sorting out the rear suspension on the Harley settling on a set of JRI shocks that greatly improved the Harley ride, but it still only has three inches of suspension travel so both the Yamaha and the Victory are just better suspension systems and offer more rider/passenger comfort.
The 2018 Yamaha Star Venture is the ruby in a mountain of rocks when it comes to current motorcycle touring models.
Last edited by American; 12-21-2018 at 07:31 AM.