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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-07-2011, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
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miffed at Yamaha engineer/designers

For what purpose did the designers decide that the left side cover on the stratoliner reqiore a security torx bit to get it off? I mean really...what is the purpose? and why could they not have included it in the tool bag?

anyone in Ontario - Oshawa area know where you can buy these?

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You should be able to buy one a brafasco or stores similar. Where I work we use security bolts and I know they get the bits from there as they supply the bolts.
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They put that there for the seat lock so some just can't unscrew it and steal your helmet when it's locked in place under the seat with the helmet cable.

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post #4 of 21 (permalink) Old 09-08-2011, 06:44 AM Thread Starter
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....so no one can steal your helmet ?!....that's a pretty poor design in my mind, and if so should they not provide you with the tool to remove the side cover? I mean, this is a real inconveince....you are supposed to be provided with a small tool pouch to perform some basic repairs....and removing the fuels tank to sya..oh, clean the air filter, requires that side cover removal to detach the fuel line....

Someone dropped the ball on that one....My goal now is to contact Yamaha corp., and have them send me this tool for free !!

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You should be able to buy one a brafasco or stores similar. Where I work we use security bolts and I know they get the bits from there as they supply the bolts.
You can get a set cheap at Harbor Freight as well if you have one nearby and don't feel like ordering it.
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seems like a lot of whining for something that costs about 4.00 for a whole set. i bought mine at a hardware store. they had a cheap china bin with all kinds of crap in it. i bought 2 sets one set went from T7 - T20 and the other set was bigger yet. both were $3.00 each so i invested a whole 6 bucks. they have held up great so far. once you have it you will have it forever if you don't lose it. then all you liner buddies will want to use yours and you can charge them a 12 pack of beer to use it. you will actually make or save a ton of money as beer costs way more than the drivers do.
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Harbor frieght sells the whole set for $4.99, and you can buy the individual bits at sears or lowes or home depot or wherever for probably 60 cents. I don't think this is really the end of the world.

Personally, I'd like to throw a thank you out for at least trying to keep stuff secure. A lot of manufacturers don't bother.

example: Suzuki's M50 in 2006, the helmet lock could be removed from the fender with a phillips head screwdriver. That's safe.
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seems like a lot of whining for something that costs about 4.00 for a whole set. i bought mine at a hardware store. they had a cheap china bin with all kinds of crap in it. i bought 2 sets one set went from T7 - T20 and the other set was bigger yet. both were $3.00 each so i invested a whole 6 bucks. they have held up great so far. once you have it you will have it forever if you don't lose it. then all you liner buddies will want to use yours and you can charge them a 12 pack of beer to use it. you will actually make or save a ton of money as beer costs way more than the drivers do.
Well ! to start, the problem here in CANADA, where the beer isn't cheap (dollars or quality) is that there are not a whole lot of tool suppliers that actually stock those bits...(and I am pissed about that)...but the pricipal of the matter still stands..if only cost 4 buck a set, why couldn't the f**k'n bastards overseas through in a bit forthe tool pouch...what the price of a yen too much for them?.....someday someone may take notice of the 'screw the consumer' oversight and future riders may be thankful that that they received a COMPLETE tool kit....
that's my 2 cents....oh, hold on I need it back to buy the bit!!!
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For what purpose did the designers decide that the left side cover on the stratoliner reqiore a security torx bit to get it off? I mean really...what is the purpose? and why could they not have included it in the tool bag?

anyone in Ontario - Oshawa area know where you can buy these?

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Off your subject just a bit, but in the same vein, ask the designers why, in their infinite wisdom, did they design the 1100 to where a guy has to drop a pipe just to get to the oil filter One wonders

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Well ! to start, the problem here in CANADA, where the beer isn't cheap (dollars or quality) is that there are not a whole lot of tool suppliers that actually stock those bits...(and I am pissed about that)...but the pricipal of the matter still stands..if only cost 4 buck a set, why couldn't the f**k'n bastards overseas through in a bit forthe tool pouch...what the price of a yen too much for them?.....someday someone may take notice of the 'screw the consumer' oversight and future riders may be thankful that that they received a COMPLETE tool kit....
that's my 2 cents....oh, hold on I need it back to buy the bit!!!
You're going to be disappointed when you find out that's not the only tool missing from the otherwise "complete" tool kit.

Most motorcycles come with some basic tools, but by no means is it typically a complete kit. This seems like a huge rant over a very simple issues to solve.
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