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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 01-07-2012, 11:16 PM Thread Starter
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low pitch squeek

Got a low pitch squeek coming from the left side of the rear wheel, it only happens while on the throttle, either accelerating or cruising, doesnt do it while coasting. Doesnt sound like a bearing. Im leaning toward the belt. Gonna check the tension on it tommorow. Itll also make a short squeek when i let off the throttle quickly. 09 raider, with 26,XXX. Any ideas?

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Sounds like a belt chirp.They have to be pretty tight.Keep us posted on what the issue is.

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Thats what im thinking. Gotta check the manual to see what its suppose to be at. I did "check" the belt couple weeks ago, but couldnt remember what the spec was.

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Thats what im thinking. Gotta check the manual to see what its suppose to be at. I did "check" the belt couple weeks ago, but couldnt remember what the spec was.
Tice, you may also want to use some candle wax rubbing it on your rear sprocket. Find yourself some canning wax from the supermarket, or even a candle. Jack the rear of the bike up just enough (making sure it won't fall over) so you can spin the rear tire freely. Rub the wax on the part where the belt contacts the sprocket. You don't need to remove the belt, just get inbetween the belt and rub the wax into the grooves of the exposed sprocket. When you complete one area, turn the rear wheel and continue rubbing the wax.

The belts on our Raiders are known for making this noise. Many have gone to extremes adjusting, and readjusting the belt trying to get rid of the con-founded squeek. First check the belt to make sure it is tight and is tracking in the center of the sprocket. You can only do this by spinning the rear wheel several times after the adjustment is made, making sure the belt does track in the center as you spin the wheel several times. You'll see the belt go to either side of the sprocket, or maintain a center position (as it should) running in the center of the sprocket.

If all is correct with the belt adjustment and it still makes noise? I would then try the wax. What-ever you do. Don't use any of the spray that gets rid of belt noise. That crap will get all over everything in the rear, making it a bear to clean the crud off of your beautiful ride. The wax does work in most cases for quite awhile.

Good Luck in what-ever you decide.

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Thanks for the info! I was thinking of pitting some wax or even soap on it just to see if the noise goes away. Gotta find a belt gauge too, it does ride on the left side of the sprocket and to me it seems loose, but that is only pushing with my finger. Ill let ya know what i find in a few days.

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Thanks for the info! I was thinking of pitting some wax or even soap on it just to see if the noise goes away. Gotta find a belt gauge too, it does ride on the left side of the sprocket and to me it seems loose, but that is only pushing with my finger. Ill let ya know what i find in a few days.
These belts are sure nice when they act right. But as you can see, are a pain in the arse when they get out of adjustment. Using a belt gauge does help in getting the belt to the correct tension per the Yamaha Service Manual, which will also help the belt last a long time. At over $250.00 for this belt, it needs to last a long time!

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Three different bike shops in this damn town and none of the have a gauge in stock, and they all want more than 30 bucks to order it. Gonna order one online today. I did put some wax on the side of the belt and the noise did go away. Now the belt is riding on the right side of the sprocket!!!! It has to be too loose, i can slide it over a hair with just my finger nails!!!!

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Tice,

There are a bunch of these gauages on ebay. The only thing is they are all around $30.00 with shipping. But wait until you see how this thing is designed. It is cheesy to say the least! The gauage has a little rubber o-ring that gets rolled up the little shaft as is pushed against the belt stopping when you quit pushing.

They ain't much for the money. But it's all we have to maintain proper tension on these belts. The funny thing is I got mine for free years ago. We used these same little gauages to measure the closing force on elevator doors. When the doors would start closing we would hold the gauge against the door until they stopped. Once that happened we could look to see how far the o-ring was pushed and what numbers it landed on.

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Hummmm, I may end up buying one of these new gauges one day? I was looking at how they are now designed, some actually have a metal pointer and not the o-ring like I has on the one I'm currently using when I adjust the belt on the Raider. But then again, why spend the $30.00 if you don't have to? I can use that money as a partial down payment on more stuff for the bike (not that $30.00 will buy anything motorcycle related!).

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I found one for about 25. Might just have my local yamaha dealer order it. It is kinda nice not hearing a squeek now!!!!! But wanna make sure its correct. Also, the noise didnt start til after i adjusted the pre load on the rear. Had to lighten it a bit, my 170 pound butt couldnt barely move the rear down!!!! Had to make my own spanner wrench for it too. The " fits almost every bike" wrench didnt work. Lol

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I didn't touch the pre-load, mine just happened to be perfect from the factory for my light weight 265 lb arse. I will say I love that rear the way it's set up. When I hit a divit or hole at 65 plus mph I don't feel like my tail bone just got shoved into my throat. With the hardware I have my my back holding it together, hitting bumps on other motorcycles I owned would hurt like a pig!

Did you find the Yamaha write-up telling you how to adjust the belt using the hash marks on the belt guard and using that fine belt tension adjustment tool? The way this proceedure is written up in their manual leaves a little to be desired, a little confusing, but it does work in the end.

I had a 1999 Sportster with the belt drive. The belt did the same darn thing when it got out of adjustment. The noise it made would drive me crazy riding down the road. When I got the bike on the lift and jacked the ass end up so I could adjust the belt. The trouble was even the slightest movement to the adjuster bolt, the belt would react by going to the opposite side of the pulley. It can be a pain getting the belt just right. In the end when there is no slack, and no noise, it's worth all of the aggravation!

As the adjustment tool goes, I'd say if you can get this tool from Yamaha for about the same price as the ones on ebay? I'd buy the thing from Yamaha.

Have fun.......

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