Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Western Colorado (Grand Junction) summers, Wickenburg, AZ winters.
I just took the afternoon off to read another thread discussing the use of a car tire (ct) on a motorcycle, commonly called Darksiding. Wow! One has to be really interested in that subject to slog through it all. So I’m going to see if I can summarize here and make it easy to understand.
First is to remember there are three camps. One is the denier who can tell you why it is bad to use a ct on a bike and all the things that may happen. Next is the avid Darksider that uses a ct on his large cruiser or touring bike on the rear wheel. Lastly comes the undecided rider who wants to be safe, confident, economical, and have a good ride but not sure of what to do. I’m going to gear my points more towards helping the undecided bloke.
To understand the denier, you have your scientifically oriented person who goes by the book and bases his thoughts on what “smart people” have figured out. You would be foolish to go against these professionals who know what they are doing. This is that the ct does not fit right on a mc wheel, will not seat well when installing, doesn’t handle correctly, and will be a nuisance if the law or insurance companies get you by the handlebars. An important key to their language are the hedge words they use such as: theory, can, should, may, likely, if, and possibly. But the real question to them is, do any of those things really happen?
On the opposite bank, are the wiggly Darksiders—heathens all. They don’t believe the “theorists” and their belief in “experts”. They are mostly Amazon shoppers and hence have realized that the “experts”, (i.e.: the manufacturers and sales companies) have one point of view while many of the actual users (the customers) may have a different take on the product. This different take is called anecdotal evidence. That is, what do the actual users of the product think. Or another way to say it is “field testing”. When really used, does this product perform like it’s supposed to? Meaning how do the Darksiders’ experience compare with what the “experts” say should happen.
Then we have the undecided rider, or as I like to call them, the Undies. So who to believe. Both sides consider the Undies' wellbeing important. I would suggest that they look at the difference between two arguments and realize it’s a simple matter of deciding, one, do you want to believe the theory of the deniers without any proof and only supposition? Or two, do you believe the multitudes of Darksiders who have field tested CTs for millions of miles and regularly report their results on websites.
I would ask anyone responding to this thread that you refrain from giving any info that you don’t have proof of. Just using the theory from some researcher sitting at a computer is not proof. Theory, man, theory. Or saying someone had some type of accident or problem when there is no proof of the cause. (An example would be to say a motorcycle had an accident and the tire came off just because it was a ct when it could have hit a curb or a piece of rebar, been deflated, had a blowout, etc.)
Again, please respond with facts only. Thanks.
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