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I put 60K+ on the Honda I had before the V-Star I have now and had no issues with the T6 5W40. Never had the oil tested, but never had any oil related issue either. 24K on the 950T so far, same story. Always looks and smells good when I drain it out. Just be careful when you pick up the blue bottle - there is a 0W40 that is NOT JASO certified. Bottles look almost identical.
FYI. The Rotella while being rated JASO is not rated for gasoline engines and does not meet the requirements of the OEM. personally I think it is better and have used it for over 100k on my Wing but for those concerned with warranty it does not meet requirements.

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This is interesting, Im pretty sure Walmart also sells Rotella oil, over in the truck/diesel section of the fluids isle.

The owners manual for 2000 Royal Star calls for 20W40, recommended API service SE, SF, SG type or higher, with a caution to not use oil with anti-friction or energy conserving modifiers.

Nothing about JASO, nothing about the oil being rated for gasoline engines.

If its straight petroleum oil with no additives, how can it not be rated for gasoline engines?

I had a good handle on all this, now Im confused....

https://www.oilspecifications.org/jaso.php

https://www.api.org/products-and-ser...s#tab-gasoline

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This is interesting, Im pretty sure Walmart also sells Rotella oil, over in the truck/diesel section of the fluids isle.

The owners manual for 2000 Royal Star calls for 20W40, recommended API service SE, SF, SG type or higher, with a caution to not use oil with anti-friction or energy conserving modifiers.

Nothing about JASO, nothing about the oil being rated for gasoline engines.

If its straight petroleum oil with no additives, how can it not be rated for gasoline engines?

I had a good handle on all this, now Im confused....

https://www.oilspecifications.org/jaso.php

https://www.api.org/products-and-ser...s#tab-gasoline
The S in SE, SA, ETC is for gasoline. Diesel will have a rating starting with a C. All of the rating for the current Rotella are C, it is not rated S. This changed a couple of years ago. I heard it was because gasoline engines had to reduce the amount of some oil additive required. Rotella no longer qualified for gasoline ratings because it did not reduce the additive. I'm no expert and could be telling you wrong but I do know the oil is no longer rated for gas.

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OK, I'm really confused now. JASO is the Japanese motorcycle designation, correct? Maybe it's just that they are not imported, but I have yet to see a diesel motorcycle. So wouldn't the JASO imply that it is OK in gasoline motorcycle engines?

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look at the JASO link I posted. It indicates very specific things that are important for MC engines, like whether the oil has any additives that will make the wet clutch slip. If there are no additives, it meets those JASO requirements for that one rating.

Sometimes you stop at a remote gas station or a Walmart, and the MC specific oil you need is not there or sold out, and you have to use something else... Any oil is better than your oil pump sucking air while you try to make it home another 5 miles...
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OK, I'm really confused now. JASO is the Japanese motorcycle designation, correct? Maybe it's just that they are not imported, but I have yet to see a diesel motorcycle. So wouldn't the JASO imply that it is OK in gasoline motorcycle engines?
owners manual will tell you you need jaso and sm rated oil. jaso is in my understanding for the wet clutch and sm is the engine.

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I put 60K+ on the Honda I had before the V-Star I have now and had no issues with the T6 5W40. Never had the oil tested, but never had any oil related issue either. 24K on the 950T so far, same story. Always looks and smells good when I drain it out. Just be careful when you pick up the blue bottle - there is a 0W40 that is NOT JASO certified. Bottles look almost identical.
I run Rotella T6 in the winters because I do ride when itís cold. JASO cert, no issues. I usually go heavier in summer, but canít imagine Rotella isnít good for any standard street MC situation.
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owners manual will tell you you need jaso and sm rated oil. jaso is in my understanding for the wet clutch and sm is the engine.
that depends on what year your bike was made: my 2000 Royal Star manual says SE or higher (SF..SG..SI...)
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If my dealer would change my oil and filter for $10, I'd go to the dealer. I'd take their list and drive off happy.
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I shop Amazon. K&N filters and oil for less delivered to my door in as little as two days. And, I get a bigger selection.
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