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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-30-2019, 11:47 AM Thread Starter
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RE: Walmart shooting

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Earlier this morning, about 630am, a disgruntled employee with Walmart walked in to the one in Southaven, Ms. He opened fire killing two employees, Southaven police responded as well as my old department, the Desoto County Sheriff’s department.
Suspect was shot and airlifted to the Med in Memphis, Southaven Officer was also shot, but the round hit him in his vest. Officer has been released from the hospital.
Prayers for all of my former colleagues, families of those killed and the community. I’ve been in that store thousands of times and did security over the holidays there. Such a tragic event!
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I didn't feel that "Chaplain's Corner" was the place to write my reply to Keith's post about the Mississippi Walmart shooting, so I am sticking it here. And I am honestly hoping that my reply does not start any infighting, as this is most certainly not my intention. But I think that we can all agree that this latest shooting is tragic, and unfortunately a sign of the times. I was just reading that the USA averages about one mass shooting per day. (355 mass shootings/year) My God. Sure, I get that it's part of your Constitution and all, and that many of my fellow forum members are gun owners, but Holy Cow, I'm not sure how it is that so many people just don't seem to see the connection between the number of gun owners and the number of gun crimes. I also just learned that a person is 6 times more likely to be killed from gun violence in the USA than in Canada. (now, before someone says that it's because the USA has 10x the population of Canada, let me say that these figures are per capita... the number of gun homicides per million people) This should speak volumes. Jeez, if you were twice as likely to be shot and killed in the USA than in Canada... well, that would be quite alarming for sure. But six times?!?

And to hopefully clarify, I have nothing against owning guns... I have owned them for most of my adult life. In fact, every person I know here in this province of Newfoundland is a gun owner. So, it definitely begs the question... why is it so much more dangerous/deadly in the States than it is here in Canada? I really don't consider Canadians and Americans to be much different from each other. Almost everyone owns guns in both of our countries. The only real difference I am seeing is that we don't carry ours around with us, unless we are out hunting, or shooting at targets. Whatever is going on with all of this dreadful gun violence these days, I sincerely hope that something changes very soon. There are far too many people getting needlessly killed.

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this chart puts it in a different perspective

the only countries worse than the USA are poverty crime ridden 3rd world nations

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I am a second amendment guy. With that said there is a problem in the US with effectively dealing with people with mental health issues. In my city there was a big state run mental hospital that was full years ago...today most of the space has been converted to other state offices. My question is where did these people go? Out in public? Shameful... An instance happened in the school my wife works at where a girl with known anger issues smashed a 6th grades boy's face into his desk as he sat there waiting on class to start. The Administrator responsible for this child being placed as an inclusion student in this class stated they wanted the girl to have the 6th grade experience....WHAT??? How about the boy who was just sitting there minding his own business? Is this his 6th grade experience? We have got our priorities all wrong. I also feel that social media has played a part in making empathy less present in peoples lives. I feel we need to really get a grip on how things like bullying, drug usage by the parents and the kids, mental health issue identification and treatment, food additives and electronic shoot em up games and social media affect our young people. They are our future and we need to address this issue quickly. Taking guns away is in my opinion just a band aid...There are people who are currently in jail that live by the motto where there is a will...there is a way. What I mean by that is people in prisons die everyday at the hands of their fellow inmates in a drug free..weapon free environment. It is not my desire to spark a political battle but I honestly feel that the knee jerk reaction is most always wrong.

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Something else to consider is that we are a generation & a half into people taking pills to cure everything!
You have pink pills to make you happy or have less anxiety.
You have blue pills to keep a Male's southern friend standing at salute.
Just to mention a few. AND let not get started opium epidemic the USA is having.

I think here in America it's more a mental health issue with violence.

The other thing is there a problem with people's lack of respect for life.

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Guns don't kill people; the government does.
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I didn't feel that "Chaplain's Corner" was the place to write my reply to Keith's post about the Mississippi Walmart shooting, so I am sticking it here. And I am honestly hoping that my reply does not start any infighting, as this is most certainly not my intention. But I think that we can all agree that this latest shooting is tragic, and unfortunately a sign of the times. I was just reading that the USA averages about one mass shooting per day. (355 mass shootings/year) My God. Sure, I get that it's part of your Constitution and all, and that many of my fellow forum members are gun owners, but Holy Cow, I'm not sure how it is that so many people just don't seem to see the connection between the number of gun owners and the number of gun crimes. I also just learned that a person is 6 times more likely to be killed from gun violence in the USA than in Canada. (now, before someone says that it's because the USA has 10x the population of Canada, let me say that these figures are per capita... the number of gun homicides per million people) This should speak volumes. Jeez, if you were twice as likely to be shot and killed in the USA than in Canada... well, that would be quite alarming for sure. But six times?!?

And to hopefully clarify, I have nothing against owning guns... I have owned them for most of my adult life. In fact, every person I know here in this province of Newfoundland is a gun owner. So, it definitely begs the question... why is it so much more dangerous/deadly in the States than it is here in Canada? I really don't consider Canadians and Americans to be much different from each other. Almost everyone owns guns in both of our countries. The only real difference I am seeing is that we don't carry ours around with us, unless we are out hunting, or shooting at targets. Whatever is going on with all of this dreadful gun violence these days, I sincerely hope that something changes very soon. There are far too many people getting needlessly killed.

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I believe in the second amendment right. The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. The last time i was at a shooting range was yesterday with my wife and daughter.

I thought about this hard and i believe that if more people believed in the philosophy of a "chaplain's corner". that would help. The answer is god. Morals in this world are lacking now. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Lack of respect down the line.

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I believe a lot of it has to do with discipline at a young age. A lot of parents do not say no to their kids. Hell I got swats on my first day of kindergarten.

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the two graphs make the problem clear

on both of them the USA is in the middle of nations in terms of gun deaths

do the people of this country want to be more like Australia, Germany, Sweden, Canada

or go the way of Honduras, Venezuela, El Salvador, Columbia....

because right now the tread is increasing towards the latter.
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