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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 03-15-2014, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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After some recent conversations I've had, I was just curious: Of all the in-the-news illegal shootings, how many of those people have a gun permit? Because if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have them, and the number of shootings on the tv will probably stay about the same. My guess is those people don't WANT a permit so it will be harder to find them. I know LOTS of people who carry, and personally, I feel better having them around.
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Like most political movements there is an agenda and it has nothing to do with how they spin it. In this case gun control. "Gun control" will not reduce the number of gun crimes, because most gun crimes are committed by criminal with no regard of the law. They are also usually committed with guns that have already been obtained illegally. We could not live in a country run by people any dumber than the ones we have now. At least in 3rd world countries you know what they are doing, here they lie to you and tell you its for your own good.
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Re - concealed carry

Here in Wisconsin where law abiding citizens can legally carry a concealed handgun - Law Enforcement likes it & supported it before we voted in. Now the criminals never know if a potential victim is going to defend themselves or not.

I have a collection, but my favorite that I carry is my .44 Special snubby revolver. It's not for target shooting, it's made to hit a man sized target at close distance. It's an older handgun and was worn by a Milwaukee police office as a backup gun for many years. I'm pretty sure that just shooting in the general direction would put the fear of GOD into any would-be attacker. It makes a very big bang
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Here's my thought: if people were allowed to carry weapons, 911 would have not happened, and if someone in schools are allowed carry, a lot of the school shootings would not have happened either.

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No permits needed to buy in SC, only to carry conceal, needs 8 hour course.
BTW- here is a fact that you won't see in the press, murder rate in the USA is the lowest in 30 years.
In Australia, murder rate only dropped slightly and stopped dropping when guns were banned. In the USA it dropped by about 30%.
As a free people its a protected right.

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[QUOTE=alarmguy;388809]No permits needed to buy in SC, only to carry conceal, needs 8 hour course.

You talking about background checks? You saying that anyone can buy a gun in SC regardless? Not sure I agree with that. I wouldn't sell dynamite to a moron or a gun to a known criminal - No good could possibly come from it...
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No permits needed to buy in SC, only to carry conceal, needs 8 hour course.

You talking about background checks? You saying that anyone can buy a gun in SC regardless? Not sure I agree with that. I wouldn't sell dynamite to a moron or a gun to a known criminal - No good could possibly come from it...
While I agree with you midnight I would not just rule it out. You know how our gov. can twist things and take them to the extreme. Kinda like a kid turning 18 a week before his girl friend and getting busted for statutory rape and having to register as a sex offender for life. Dont laugh it has happened.
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Here in Indiana, you can purchase a hand gun without a permit, but they have to do a background check on you at the time of purchase. I suppose that's fair enough?? Actually, Indiana is quite good a letting citizens protect themselves by what ever means necessary. Here is the code copy/pasted if interested. I believe the words "public servant" refers to police officer:

IC 35-41-3-2
Use of force to protect person or property
Sec. 2. (a) In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant. By reaffirming the long standing right of a citizen to protect his or her home against unlawful intrusion, however, the general assembly does not intend to diminish in any way the other robust self defense rights that citizens of this state have always enjoyed. Accordingly, the general assembly also finds and declares that it is the policy of this state that people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime. The purpose of this section is to provide the citizens of this state with a lawful means of carrying out this policy.
.......and then.......No person in this state shall be placed in legal jeopardy of any kind whatsoever for protecting the person or a third person by reasonable means necessary.
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But you cannot walk up on a person getting robbed and shoot the robber.
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But you cannot walk up on a person getting robbed and shoot the robber.

Actually, a few lines later in the code it states that you can protect a third person. (Subsection C of the same code) The right to protect ourselves is one of the few things I like about Indiana.
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