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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 05-03-2014, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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Question Passing gear?

I've been riding my rather groovy '01 Vstar 650 for a month now, and have put about 900 miles on it since purchase. Tons of fun.

Twice now I have been accelerating after a stop, and shortly after getting into 5th gear, it dropped back into 4th. If I was driving a car with an automatic transmission, it would mean it had dropped into the so-called passing gear. I don't think I accidentally hit the shift lever with my toe, and it easily went back into 5th with a press of the heal shifter, and stayed there.

Is this an ominous warning sign, or is it just "one of those things"?

Thanks for any insights in advance.

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How fast are you going when you shift into 5th? I had a car that would 'pop out of gear', but never heard of a manual tranny falling back into a lower gear.

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The second time was yesterday. I was going about 30ish(?) on a road outside town. The first time was about 2 weeks ago, on an on-ramp to the freeway. I think I was closer to 40.

The first time it definitely went down a gear. I figured I hadn't fully gotten into 5th. Yesterday the revs went up, and I thought it was in neutral (surely not possible?). When I pushed down on the heel shifter, it clearly was in 5th. No recurrence on either occasion. Weird or what?
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I've been riding my rather groovy '01 Vstar 650 for a month now, and have put about 900 miles on it since purchase. Tons of fun.

Twice now I have been accelerating after a stop, and shortly after getting into 5th gear, it dropped back into 4th. If I was driving a car with an automatic transmission, it would mean it had dropped into the so-called passing gear. I don't think I accidentally hit the shift lever with my toe, and it easily went back into 5th with a press of the heal shifter, and stayed there.

Is this an ominous warning sign, or is it just "one of those things"?

Thanks for any insights in advance.

Rod
Its most defiantly not one of those things...Manual transmissions should not shift on their own.

How lose is your shifter? it could be a couple things that add together which could cause the bike to shift on its own. If your fluid is low and the shifter is super loose a good bump could cause the shifter to change the gear on your own.

Ive never had that happen and im simply speculating, but I would check those couple things. While your into your tranny fluid check for metal shavings.

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what probably happened was at 30 mph in 5th gear the engine and rear wheel were moving at the same rpm an it just eased itself out
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Ok. Thanks for the input.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...65788261,d.aWc...your lugging your engine going to slow in high gear
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Ok, this all helps a lot. GreenMTNrider scared the socks off me, but clearly it's something to consider. I did wonder if I was shifting too early; the bike has no tachometer, so I'm just going by sound.

I'll stay out of 5th till about 40 for now.

Thanks a million for the responses.
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40 mph you should be in 3rd gear. 4th gear up to 50,5th gear over 50 ,55. you can take 4th to 55,60 no problem i cruise at 60 in 4th
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