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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-07-2014, 06:32 PM Thread Starter
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Thumbs up Wanting to upgrade 650 Classic - pipes,jetkit,air - need advice?

I have an '06 650 V-Star Classic and would like to upgrade:

o Exhaust (fishtails maybe?)
http://www.cruisercustomizing.com/hi...part/HH-65-949

Otherwise I was considering Vance and Hines, not sure if I can get away with slip-ons or if I should spend $$$ and get the whole pipe system replaced. The stock pipes are in excellent shape, no bluing or anything.

Would also like advice on which jet-kit to get and which air intake system.

Goal is to give the bike MOAR POWER but not sacrifice reliability, while staying on a limited budget (~$800 including labor.)

Any advice, links to best prices, etc is vastly appreciated!
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-08-2014, 10:49 AM
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650ccnd.com look under the Performance and How To tabs.

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I put the V&H cruzer full exhaust on mine with the SAM mod which is opening up stock airbox with stock air filter or spend more $ and get the k&n which you won't feel any perfornce gain. All this requires rejetting and shimming the carb.

My opinion is install slip on exhaust. Sound is all most are after anyway That's it. Performance gain is minimal with full exhaust, rejetting and opening up airbox. Not worth the $$ or trouble. Slipons require no rejetting. Install and ride.

Feel free to ask or pm me any other questions.
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I think you're wasting your time with pipes and jetting. If you really need more power, get the 950 or 1100.

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What Stevem said. I sold my 650 3 months ago and bought a Stratoliner. I spent $730 on pipes, airkit & jetting and performance gain minimal.

No replacement for displacement
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> No replacement for displacement

I'm with you 99% there, but I have a limited budget and really kinda need to save up for another cage if mine dies. So instead of spending ~$6k for a used 950, I can save up $800 or so by Feb/Mar and get some performance mods done to the existing 650.

I suspect to get anything resembling real performance output from the bike, I'd have to replace the carbs as well as pipes+custom airbox+jetting. By which point you're in for at least a couple grand, and arguably better off scrapping the idea and starting with more displacement anyhow (or going batshiat crazy and doing the whole extreme-redesign thing, to make it a completely custom ride.)

If it was a project bike and I had someone in the area willing to work with me, I'd consider boring/stroking it out to ~750cc; but really, it's my only bike and my daily rider - so I need it to be reliable.

Long term goal is to save up for an 1800 Valkyrie or an Indian, by which time (~5 years) they will prolly have come out with something even more amazing

Short term, I will prolly start with slip-ons like the fishtails and see how it goes. I'd really like the bike to breathe better, but there are other things to spend $$$ on...
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I assume you are doing the Fishtails for looks and not performance. The engine is just an air pump, to increase performance you need to open both ends. There are some inexpensive air mods for the 650. If it were me I'd do one of the pipe mods from the 650ccnd.com site spend the money on the air (intake) mod. I kinda liked the Slash cut core mod for the exhaust. Do the GAK mod about $40 per carb for the filters and jets. RU-2760 K&Ns, 125 jets and a breather filter from AutoZone.

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Pro-1 Tach
Dyna 3000 Step 5/ 6500 redline
TPS Connected
6" Fwd Control Extension W/Boards F&R
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Welp, thanks for the advice, all - but I caved in when I had to take the bike into the shop when it started running crappy Friday, and ended up buying another bike

/ I may have to switch forums ;-)
// It's still a Yamaha

Ride safe, y'all!
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