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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-12-2018, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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I've been wanting to jump into this forum for a while and wut better time then now Lol. I was wiring a new tail light and turn signals and accidentally shorted out the brake and turn together I think. thought I heard a faint noise near the relay so checked the fuses and the 50A and two 15A fuses are fine. nothing seemed to melt or smell burnt either. everything is working except taillight, brake and turn signals don't. I noticed the blinker switch is silent now. checked the filaments are okay. Are there any other fuses besides the ones around the relay? or any other idea what else might-a happened. bike is a stock '08. thanks
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Welcome from Sacramento, Ca. What bike do you have.
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Hi Bob!
Welcome to the forum. Can you give us a bit more information on your bike? Be sure to ask all your questions in the Vstar section. Also pics are big here and we’re glad you decided to join us.


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sorry bout that. its a roadstar. thought i posted to a road star spacific thread. yea as can be seen i'm not finished with her yet. was wiring my lights when.. lights went out lol i think one of the pics may be sidewaaays
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Great looking bike there Bob! Love the handlebars.


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post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 11-13-2018, 07:39 AM
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Since you were putting on new lights try to get this down to a single point failure.

disconnect the lights you added at a connector, then use a volt meter to see if the control unit is sending 12VDC to the brake light connector and turn signal connector when you step on the brake or engage the turn signals. Then you will know if its the control unit, a burnt wire before that point, or something not right with your new lights (missing ground connection for example).

I have never seen a schematic for the light drivers in the control unit for the bike, so I dont know what would happen if you wired the power from one light circuit (the brake light for example) back fed into the output of another (the turn signal driver). Its possible that would blow out the driver circuits.... maybe... depending on how its designed (transistors, JFETS... protection diodes or not...).

At least the volt meter test will narrow it down.
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thanks KCW, could you explain where the light driver is and what it does. haven't heard of that one. anxious to do as you said and start checking things with the meter.
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I dont have the service manual for the Road Star here on this computer, but looking at the wiring diagram for a similar bike, it looks like the turn signals and brake light are wired directly into the turn signal switch and the brake light switches. I thought they might all be wired to the ECU, but that does not appear to be the case.

But thats good, because back feeding the brake lights with the turn signals wired together should not hurt anything. I think I was going down the wrong path.

You should be able to find the Road Star Service manual online in a free PDF file, maybe even from the Yamaha motorcycle support webpage itself. The wiring diagrams are on the last pages of the service manuals, it would help you trace thru the wires and connectors (it shows the wire colors) and you can see where you are losing the 12V between the fuse and the tail lights.
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here it is: http://www.werder.ee/Manual/XV1600.pdf

scoll/page thru it to page 7-31
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here is the update for the 1700 bikes - wiring diagram is in color! http://www.rswarriordocs.com/manuals...ual-WO3646.pdf
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