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I bought my V-Star 1100 already bobbed (rear fender frame cut off and gone). Now I want to fit some rear fender struts so I can have a removable rear section for those occasions the wife wants to ride (bolt it on) and when I ride solo (take it off) like on the 650, but see from another thread the ones from a 650 won't work (don't see why not if I am going to fit a custom fender). Wondering if anyone has fit Harley Softail struts or some other brand struts and done such a thing....?
 

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Pics of said bike first would be awesome.

Does it have a fender now? If not get a trailer fender build it up have it welded on with some custom struts its stays period get a suction cup seat slap it on when the wife wants to ride and be done with it.

Keep in mind this type of setup usually only works if your wife is under 140ish. Unless you use some huge struts.
 

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Pics of said bike first would be awesome.

Does it have a fender now? If not get a trailer fender build it up have it welded on with some custom struts its stays period get a suction cup seat slap it on when the wife wants to ride and be done with it.

Keep in mind this type of setup usually only works if your wife is under 140ish. Unless you use some huge struts.
I'll post a pic as soon as I can, but maybe I was unclear.

1. The rear fender/seat support has already been cut off and thrown away to make it a solo/bobber.

2. It already has a trailer fender on struts to the swing arm, but if I put a pad on there for the wife she won't be riding on the monoshock suspension, she'll be essentially on a hardtail, and I don't want a divorce.

3. The 650 has a removeable section where two chrome struts are secured to the rearmost part of the main frame on either side of the front seat. These struts support the 650's rear fender and seat, so they are designed to support a rider.

4. Someone said on another thread that the 650 struts can't be used on an 1100 but didn't say why.

5. I want to find struts that are long enough and at such an angle that I can custom fit a fender to them and provide a seat for my wife, and remove it when I ride solo (just like a 650).
 

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Thats a lot of modding to add struts. It would require one the new fender probably a donor 650 cut and widened if need be. The struts and not only the struts the under side of the fender that actually bolts to the struts. The fender itself isn't the structure part of it there is a basket underneath that holds it all together. Really weird but it works. The fender doesn hold everything up but its just a free floating fender without that basket it would probably compress and warp.

The frame is wider for the 1100 vs the 650 I believe the shock setup is totally different. I can adjust the shock compression of my 650 bobber without doing anything special my 1100 I need to remove the seat and battery box and a few other things to get to it as its mounted vertical not horizontal like the 650.

I get she would probably be riding on hardtail but if you build the fender to the frame box vs the suspension box it would be another story. With some heavy duty tube welded in off the frame as struts it would hold up well.

But I do have a stock 650 fender and subframe if you wanna try that youll need bungs and bolts to attach it to the frame.
 

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Thats a lot of modding to add struts. It would require one the new fender probably a donor 650 cut and widened if need be. The struts and not only the struts the under side of the fender that actually bolts to the struts. The fender itself isn't the structure part of it there is a basket underneath that holds it all together. Really weird but it works. The fender doesn hold everything up but its just a free floating fender without that basket it would probably compress and warp.

The frame is wider for the 1100 vs the 650 I believe the shock setup is totally different. I can adjust the shock compression of my 650 bobber without doing anything special my 1100 I need to remove the seat and battery box and a few other things to get to it as its mounted vertical not horizontal like the 650.

I get she would probably be riding on hardtail but if you build the fender to the frame box vs the suspension box it would be another story. With some heavy duty tube welded in off the frame as struts it would hold up well.

But I do have a stock 650 fender and subframe if you wanna try that youll need bungs and bolts to attach it to the frame.
I was thinking I would just drill the frame like the 650 so I can bolt the struts on, then use an old 1100 fender and that metal part that the struts bolt on to and support the fender. So you have the fender, the metal underside the struts bolt to, and the struts? Possibly for sale?
 

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I will measure when I get home but I think the 1100 vs 650 is a bit smaller around the frame seat area for the fender. I can see a manufacturer using the same fender for both models however so it may work out. You will have to get the thing mounted perfectly though to work.

You may also have to convert to a different seat as well I am not sure if the 1100 seat will fit in front of the 650 fender or vice versa. I will measure the space compared for both for the bolts to go through on the fender and then the distance from the strut connection points to the frame rails. I thinik the 1100 rails are a little bit different than the 650 in the pan area however so it may kill it for you there.

Also, the whole thing may not work with the bobbed setup you currently have at the moment. This is the main reason I didn't hack my 1100 up and turn it into a bobber my wife wanted to ride... So now I have a 650 bobber no hacking required and my 1100for two up.
 

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I will measure when I get home but I think the 1100 vs 650 is a bit smaller around the frame seat area for the fender. I can see a manufacturer using the same fender for both models however so it may work out. You will have to get the thing mounted perfectly though to work.

You may also have to convert to a different seat as well I am not sure if the 1100 seat will fit in front of the 650 fender or vice versa. I will measure the space compared for both for the bolts to go through on the fender and then the distance from the strut connection points to the frame rails. I thinik the 1100 rails are a little bit different than the 650 in the pan area however so it may kill it for you there.

Also, the whole thing may not work with the bobbed setup you currently have at the moment. This is the main reason I didn't hack my 1100 up and turn it into a bobber my wife wanted to ride... So now I have a 650 bobber no hacking required and my 1100for two up.
Man that would be super cool. I really appreciate it! Keep in mind that I can get different bolts, a different fender, and haven't yet chosen a seat (but will probably use a regular springer solo seat for me.). The main thing is that if I drill the 1100 frame as far to the rear as safely possible, will the 650 rails go back far enough to fully support a seat, and high enough to clear the back tire suspension travel of the 1100?

It just occurred to me that if we can make this work, there might be a lot of grateful 1100 owners out there who will follow suit. Here's to being a pioneer!!
 

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I think your going about this all wrong. That is a lot of work. Try this:

Go home and tell the wife that you love her, you love her so much that you are going to go out and buy another bike that has a seat for her. DONE!!!!!! no welding, no drilling, no nothing AND........ now you have two bikes, a bobber and whatever else you find that has a passenger seat and pegs (you never mentioned anything about pegs but they are important so she doesn't drag her feet). Sell her on the safety of not ruining her pedicure. I should run for President!!!!
 

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I think your going about this all wrong. That is a lot of work. Try this:

Go home and tell the wife that you love her, you love her so much that you are going to go out and buy another bike that has a seat for her. DONE!!!!!! no welding, no drilling, no nothing AND........ now you have two bikes, a bobber and whatever else you find that has a passenger seat and pegs (you never mentioned anything about pegs but they are important so she doesn't drag her feet). Sell her on the safety of not ruining her pedicure. I should run for President!!!!
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Yeah, I don't think it's all that complicated. There are dozens of different shape and size struts out there for various brands and models of motorcycles. E-Bay is loaded with them. I thought maybe someone here already did this so I could just buy the best fitting struts once and not fart around with it, but apparently not.

I just need to find the struts that fit best, drill the frame, bolt them on, then fit a fender to them. It'll be exactly like the 650 in configuration, but using different parts (maybe Honda or Harley struts with a Tractor Supply trailer fender or something?). I'll do it then post it to the forum so all those that think it's too complicated can see how easy it is.

I know for a fact there are several 1100 (or larger) owners who have NOT made their bikes full bobbers as they would like for this very reason, so when it's figured out it will kick the door wide open for a whole bunch of hesitant people.

Thanks.

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Hole to hole the fender mounting is the same for the side struts I could probably bolt them straight to my 1100 fender. However the frame for the 1100 is wider in the seat pan area where you would have to bolt the stuts on. They would need to be cut and widened at that point to accomodate the differance in width of the frame. The fenders themselves seemed to be a close fit 1100 vs 650 wise as well. I think I might have been able to mount the 650 to my 1100 if I wanted I just have bags, bag connectors sissy bar and everything else connected I don't feel like removing to verify.
 

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I still like my idea better.....just saying.
 

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Hole to hole the fender mounting is the same for the side struts I could probably bolt them straight to my 1100 fender. However the frame for the 1100 is wider in the seat pan area where you would have to bolt the stuts on. They would need to be cut and widened at that point to accomodate the differance in width of the frame. The fenders themselves seemed to be a close fit 1100 vs 650 wise as well. I think I might have been able to mount the 650 to my 1100 if I wanted I just have bags, bag connectors sissy bar and everything else connected I don't feel like removing to verify.
That's great news Barman! I'm gong to order a set of struts next week. I have the original fender from the 1100 Classic to start out with to judge fitment, then I can go from there.

Thanks so much for doing that research for me! The only local Yamaha dealer never had an older 1100 and a 650 in stock at the same time, and the parts and service guys were just shrugs and "that's custom. we wouldn't know anything about that.".

Thanks again man. I really appreciate it! :):):)
 

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I've got a set in my garage depending on where you are if you're interested. You'll also eked the under basket part for strength.
 

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I've got a set in my garage depending on where you are if you're interested. You'll also eked the under basket part for strength.
I do indeed need a pair (of struts.... I've got the other kind, so don't even go there). If you want to sell them we can work something out. The question will be how to transfer money. I don't suppose you accept credit cards.....? Then there's shipping and all. Of course if I bought them on E-Bay I would use Pay Pal. Maybe we can do that?

Insofar as the basket, or whatever it's called, I wonder if the one for the 650 is wide enough for an 1100. I don't know my tire size. Next time I swing by the shop I'll see what they are (they are Metzeler wide whitewalls). Don't know if I'll need an 1100 frame/basket of if a 650 setup will fit. I'd rather use the 650 setup because I think it looks better. Simple and clean, and not a big obnoxious thing like the old fender I have (I don't have the metal underside for it though).

Yeah, if we can work something out I'd be glad to buy them off you. PM me with what you have and prices. Thanks!!

Oh, and I would have you ship them to my office in Ann Arbor, MI (48108 zip code for shipping estimate). I have no idea what shipped would be.
 

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I have the fender, struts, and undercarriage. Tell me what you want and we can come up with a fair price. Also, paypal would work. I would probably put the struts in a USPS package if they fit if not I can find a box to ship them out as well.
 

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My brother has a HD Rocker and you could fab up something like that where it mounts to the seat pan/frame. Google HD Rocker passenger seat, and look at the images.
 

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My brother has a HD Rocker and you could fab up something like that where it mounts to the seat pan/frame. Google HD Rocker passenger seat, and look at the images.
In all the years I have been into bikes I have never seen that setup before. Dang you better hope your girl isn't thick LOL with that setup for anyone her poore arse may hangover and ride the tire...

Talk about wild I can imagine this conversation " here honey I made you a seat hop on"... her"its a freakin shelve with a back rest i'm going to be humping your back all day everywhere we go" him "in his head thoughts well whats wrong with that... Actual saying I thought about that and got you this here pad for the other side to:D" her" a-hole ...-smack across face- walks away"-"im never getting on that with you ever have fun"
 
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