[Redbird58]

Wow...They look clean..No corrosion...Not a metallurgist but I wonder if the reason they were so hard to get out was the heating and cooling effect and the reaction of two different alloys...I have some deck plates on the machines I service that are a bugger to get out...No heat, No stress...They just hold a deck plate down so paper can travel over it smoothly but good lord those things can get stuck to the point the screw head will round out or the tip of the allan gets rounded off. But I gotta say @Boog You are a trooper! Way to stick with it!

 

[lesblank]

Glad you got the bolts loose. Bummer the cost effective way didn't work. Can you return? Was there much crud in there that might have assisted in the pump failure?

 

[Boog]

Glad you got the bolts loose. Bummer the cost effective way didn't work. Can you return? Was there much crud in there that might have assisted in the pump failure?

I should be able to return the pump.

Yes to the crude. I will need to siphone the gas out and clean the crap out. It looks like maybe a teaspoon of either rust or dirt in there. The old filter is brown now.

 

[lesblank]

Years of questionable fuel will take it's toll. With the bike being from the high humidity East Texas area will also contribute to the issue. We know the bike has been ridden a lot so stale fuel properly wasn't cause, more age and amount of fuel the bike has seen. Good job on getting it this far.

 

[Boog]

I'll try to remember and write a full piece on the fuel pump saga once I get it complete. I sure would have thought the electric impact wrench would have done it though, but it failed too, right along with everything else.

Some of the videos I see on YouTube have these as bolt and not Alan heads, I wonder when Yamaha made the change.

 

[dcody40]

My 07 Strat has bolts, 12mm I think. One thing real odd is I read this post when it first came out, and guess what, a day later I tried to fire up the beast and it just spins the motor, have power to the pump, put a 12 volt battery on the + - post with a hose to a jar, pumps fuel, but no start, had to charge the battery between troubleshooting, am going to put an ohm meter on the pump contacts tonight as per the maint manual. Found two other sources for the pumps themself, both about 60-70$. The one on amazon didn't look too good to me, glad you advised it's not a perfect match. And now it's not available anymore.
I'll dig up the other two sources asap.

 

[dcody40]

Here's the two sources for the fuel pumps. both advise for our strats.

Fuel Pump For Yamaha 2006-2018 Roadliner / Raider / Stratoliner Replace 1D7-13907-01-00

Description FPF replacement fuel pump are designed to meet or exceed OEM specifications. Our pump features upgraded bushing, turbine impeller and Japanese armature electric motor which will ensure max performance and long lasting durability. FeaturesMeet or exceed OEM performance and...

www.fuelpumpfactory.com

Fuel Pump for Yamaha Motorcycle - OEM Replacement, HFP-382S-Y QFS

SUPERIOR PERFORMANCE, FREE SHIPPING from the AUTHORITY on OEM replacement Fuel Pumps. SAVE on parts designed specifically for your vehicle. Shop HFP-382S-Y

www.highflowfuel.com

 

[Boog]

Last word from Friday is that my pump is on back order from Wisconsin. California has some in stock but they are still on lock down. :-(

 

[lesblank]

How's your repairs going? Did you get the pump? Did you figure out the Triumph leak? Are you riding the Triumph? Need any help we can possibly give?

 

[dcody40]

Update on my Strat's no starting, I replaced the pump for around 75$, the new one and connector fit right in. Well still won't start, I did have 12vdc at the connector pins for a second of so, then nothing, so pulled the rear fender back a few inches to gain access to that multifunction relay, and wow, found a green corroded red wire and once I got the relay out of this socket, found the hot pin was actually broken in the connector, so a poorly crimped connector lug caused a hot spot as well as moisture getting into the connectors for 14 years did the damage.
Was impossible to buy the actual connector, everyone sells the relay 45$, but found Bike Strippers on Ebay who had the whole wiring harness with relays and connectors in decent shape, so that's what I did, should get it on Thursday, I'll verify all wires match and then splice in the new connector and try the relay. I guess I'll find out this weekend if I have a running Strat again. Everyone sells the relays but nobody sells the wiring harness connectors. Or at least I didn't find a source. Hopefully I won't need one. Also found out another issue, the new relays have a different P/N 5VK-81950-31-00 The old P/N is -30-00 Don't know what the difference is if any.

 

[Boog]

I have installed the new pump assembly and buttoned the bike up. It won't start at the moment due to low battery. I hope that is all. The new pump sounds great though compared to the old one.
I'll try to jump the bike later today.
This is the crud I found inside the pump tank, it is gone now.

 

[Redbird58]

Was impossible to buy the actual connector, everyone sells the relay 45$, but found Bike Strippers on Ebay who had the whole wiring harness with relays and connectors in decent shape, so that's what I did, should get it on Thursday,

I have a pretty good source for pins if your harness does not work out. Check out Corsa Technic if you end up needing the pins.

 

[dcody40]

I have a pretty good source for pins if your harness does not work out. Check out Corsa Technic if you end up needing the pins.

I'll keep that in mind in case my plan goes south, I did get the harness today, looks pretty good, the relay connector is in much better shape, no corroded pins, now to get enough slack in the bikes wiring harness and limited room to splice all 13 wires, and then water proof them. Once I get this new connector installed and the bike runs again, I'm going to dissect the old connector, I can't find where to push to release the pin, probably jammed because of the broken relay pin still in the connector pin. I'm trying to push from the front with a ground down steel tool made out of thin 4130 steel sheet, and pull the wire end at the same time, so two big hands, tight spot between fender and battery box, can you say PIA.

 

[dcody40]

Success, wired the new relay connector in salvaged from the wiring harness from Bike strippers, used the relay also, shrink tubed all the soldered butt joints, bike started right up, woopeee,,, now to clean the valve covers and everything else I can reach, before buttoning everything up, also adding the vacuum line mod for balancing the cylinders, I'll run those new lines to the right cover over the two coils. Boy this beast is dirty, but was surprised how clean the K&N air filter was, re- oiled it. Found only one additional problem once I put the tank back on for testing, one of the fuel shutoff valves started leaking when I got it almost full open, I screwed it back in a half turn, leak stopped. I think I'll purchase one of those just in case. Sure was happy to fire the beast up again after sitting all winter. Oh I also treated the beast to a new battery, I was still running my original from 2011 when I got the bike.

 

[Boog]

Well crap! I got a chance to work on the bike today. I planned to get a few gallons of gas first but would need to get rid of the bad gas in the can. In the end, I tossed the can, could not get it clean.

Off on an adventure to find a gas can during this gas crisis on the east coast. After a few stops, found a two-gallon can at Walmart. Now to find a station that has fuel. The first three I went to were out but I did finally get two gallons.

I got home and poured it into the tank and low-and-behold, I have a fuel leak. Crap again!!!

I pull the seat off and closed both valves, that stopped the leak. I checked the hoses but that is not where it stems from. I then see that it is coming from the top of the new fuel pump. Evidently I do not have the rubber gasket/seal in correctly so time to disassemble the top of the fuel pump to pull it out. Triple crap!

That did not take as long as doing it the first time did and I got the seal put back in correctly this time. After reassembling it all, I opened the valves and no leaks; YEAH!

I try to start it and nothing. I spray starter fluid in and it starts momentarily the dies. I keep at it and can get it to rev after starting but then it dies once more.

Throw me a bone guys, I need some help!

 

[Jspree]

Disconnect fuel line at injectors, insure fuel is pumping to injectors. If it is, we start troubleshooting fuel injection system.

 

[lesblank]

Another quick check, is vacuum line attached to fuel regulator. You have moved a lot of things and could have slide off.

 

[Boog]

Disconnect fuel line at injectors, insure fuel is pumping to injectors. If it is, we start troubleshooting fuel injection system.

I will give that a go and report back later. I am done for the night now.

 

[Boog]

Another quick check, is vacuum line attached to fuel regulator. You have moved a lot of things and could have slide off.

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I'll check that too. It looks like I have a lot of disassembling to do ...

 

[Redbird58]

Any luck Boog?