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Hello everybody. I have been riding for 4 decades and was recently given a 2007 VStar 1300 with 32.0 miles. (Literally 32.0 Miles) I will introduce myself here and see if I can get some help on the first issue, then I will scour the site looking for the help I need and probably post this issue again in the appropriate forum.

My friend bought it, got into an accident in his truck before he even got the pipes changed out. It has been sitting in his garage/carport ever since and he has finally decided to just get rid of it. Health issues are getting him down and having to walk around it everyday really bums him out. I want to get it running and either sell it or use it around town. He wont take any money. But, his wife works for me, so I might sneak it into her paycheck if I do sell it.

He tinkers with it all the time. keeps the oil and gas fresh and battery charged, and does "stuff" to it. (i think he bobbed the fender over the weekend) It starts right up, and here is my issue...It won't go into gear. Kickstand was up, clutch pulled, push shift lever down... Instantly stalls and jerks forward. I don't think it is a kill switch since it jerks. If I remember the SECA I had in the 90s, I had bypassed a couple of kill switches. I took as much slack out of the adjuster on the lever as I could, but, I wasn't able to do any diagnosis in the driveway because he gets tired very fast and we had already been talking for a while in the heat of the day before I tried to ride off. He has no recollection of doing any work, but the bike has had some love. ( straight pipes and "hyper charger fuel injection system". I am going to trailer it home unless it is something silly.

I'll worry about tires and gas etc after I get it off his porch. So...3 things. 1. The issue above. 2. Anything else I need to address before enjoying it? 3. what value do you think it has?

Thanks in advance. I'm excited to get her back on the road.
 

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no problem with the bike: breath in, breath out and smile!

the clutch plates are hydrolocked from sitting engaged for so long. Its like there is a vacuum between the fluid and it does not want to release.

Take the bike out on the street, start it up in neutral, let it warm up for minute. Then push (duck walk) it up to about 5mph in neutral still, pull in the clutch and shift up into 2nd gear. The bike should keep going even though it will jerk into gear.

work the clutch in and out a few times, and then with the clutch pulled in, give it some gas, let it off hard, give it some gas, let it off... keep in mind the bike will be powering itself down the street while you are doing this, like its in 2nd gear with the clutch engaged.

that should break the hydro lock loose.

My yamaha dirt bike use to do this when I let it sit for a long time, Perfectly normal, nothing is wrong.
 

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You are the best @KCW. I figured it was something easy, but sometimes I can't even figure out what to ask. I've never even heard of something like this. I tried Barn find, stored long time, abandoned, etc. Thank you! I will try it tomorrow.
 

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Couple things I would check before you start riding it:

1. the oil. If he has memory issues make sure the oil is up to the proper level. If the bike is low on oil dont drive it. If the bike has not been used in 12 years (2007 came out in 2006) I dont know if he ever changed it, but oil does degrade over the years just from sitting. Unless you can be sure the oil is less than a year old, I would change it and the filter.

2. the gas: I dont know how he kept it fresh as you said, but gas degrades even faster - after just a few months it can start to gunk up the carbs or fuel injectors, so I would drain the tank and put fresh gas in it, then add 4 ounces of SeaFoam (from walmart auto section), which will help clean out any fuel gunk that might be in the tank or injectors.

3. when you drain the gas tank look inside it from the filler cap with a flash light - if it was not kept full all the time, there is a good chance the inside of the gas tank is rusted. If it is tell us - that will be a problem because the rust could get through the fuel filter and into the carbs/injectors of a bike that has not been used.

As far as the value, its still a 12 year old motorcycle even though it was never ridden. Shock, shaft, brake... seals dry out and will leak after several years. If the engine was not run at all there could be rust on the cylinder walls and other internal parts. One would think a bike with no miles on the odo should be just like new, but that is not always the case. Goto one of the websites that gives the price for used motorcycles, and enter yours as 'excellent condition'. Motorcycles depreciate in value quickly, so it might only be valued at $3k to $4k because of its age.

The good news is a Vstar 1300 is an excellent motorcycle. I hope you find a way to repay him, esp if as I seem to be reading he has some issues thinking clearly. Talk to his wife privately and assure her that you do not want to take advantage of his generosity at the risk of taking advantage of his bad fortune.
 

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Welcome from Houston, Texas. I ride an 1100 and can't help much on running issue. My bike had been sitting for years before I bought it with only 1700 miles on it. What worked well for me was to follow the recommended maintenance but used time schedule not the miles. I litterly changed every fluid, oil, brake, fork, differential, etc. I took every electrical connection apart that I could get to, checked for corrosion and put some dielectric grease in connections. Replaced tires and brakes. I flushed gas tank, fuel lines and rebuilt carbs. I'm sure there were other things I did and other members will probably chime in. It was a lot of work but have gotten years of use without any major issues. If you post your questions in the Vstar forum, https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=49
You will get more exposure.

Here's a few interesting threads to check out when you get a chance.

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/7-starbikeforums-bike-month/

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/49-v-star/5655-yammy-ya-got.html?highlight=Yammy

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/36-lounge/110258-where-you.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/25113-how-experienced-you.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/36-lounge/113714-how-mature-you.html

Ride often and safe.
 

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Couple things I would check before you start riding it:

1. the oil. If he has memory issues make sure the oil is up to the proper level. If the bike has not been used in 12 years (2007 came out in 2006) I dont know if he ever changed it, but oil does degrade over the years just from sitting. Unless you can be sure the oil is less than a year old, I would change it and the filter.

2. the gas: I dont know how he kept it fresh as you said, but gas degrades even faster - after just a few months it can start to gunk up the carbs or fuel injectors, so I would drain the tank and put fresh gas in it, then add 4 ounces of SeaFoam (from walmart auto section), which will help clean out and fuel gunk that might be in the tank or injectors.

3. when you drain the gas tank look inside it from the filler cap with a flash light - if it was not kept full all the time, there is a good chance the inside of the gas tank is rusted. If it is tell us - that will be a problem because the rust could get through the fuel filter and into the carbs/injectors of a bike that has not been used.

As far as the value, its still a 12 year old motorcycle even though it was never ridden. Shock, shaft, brake... seals dry out and will leak after several years. If the engine was not run at all there could be rust on the cylinder walls and other internal parts. One would think a bike with no miles on the odo should be just like new, but that is not always the case. Goto one of the websites that gives the price for used motorcycles, and enter yours as 'excellent condition'. Motorcycles depreciate in value quickly, so it might only be valued at $3k to $4k because of its age.

The good news is a Vstar 1300 is an excellent motorcycle. I hope you find a way to repay him, esp if as I seem to be reading he has some issues thinking clearly. Talk to his wife privately and assure her that you do not want to take advantage of his generosity at the risk of taking advantage of his bad fortune.
KCW, you are fast. All good points.
 

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the best way to understand hydrolocking: put a dime on the table, lick your finger and push it down hard on the dime, then lift your finger up in the air.

you just violated the law of gravity by picking up a metal disk from the top! Not really - the atoms of the liquid are pressed into such a small space that air cannot get in.

Motorcycles have wet clutches, soaking in the oil bath. It is normal for a bike just sitting overnight, to slightly hydrolock the clutch - you start it up in neutral, pull in the clutch, shift into first gear, and the bike goes CLUNK and jumps forward just a bit - the plate will stick just slightly overnight. After a few months they can be stuck pretty good. This is one of the reasons they do not use oil bath clutches on cars. If you parked the car for year, and the clutch locked like this, you cannot duck walk your car up to 10mph to pop the transmission into second gear, then load the engine up with the clutch in. Shifting a car into first gear and having it lurch forward (like a motorcycle) could be very dangerous.

BTW there is one serious problem that no one has found a solution for. The first time you take the bike for a ride, you will not be able to get the smile off your face for a week!
 

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Welcome to the forum from East Tennessee, and you included some pics, impressive! I can’t add much more in suggestions, see why we have the smartest members and best Motorcycle forum going?


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no problem with the bike: breath in, breath out and smile!

the clutch plates are hydrolocked from sitting engaged for so long. Its like there is a vacuum between the fluid and it does not want to release.

Take the bike out on the street, start it up in neutral, let it warm up for minute. Then push (duck walk) it up to about 5mph in neutral still, pull in the clutch and shift up into 2nd gear. The bike should keep going even though it will jerk into gear.

work the clutch in and out a few times, and then with the clutch pulled in, give it some gas, let it off hard, give it some gas, let it off... keep in mind the bike will be powering itself down the street while you are doing this, like its in 2nd gear with the clutch engaged.

that should break the hydro lock loose.

My yamaha dirt bike use to do this when I let it sit for a long time, Perfectly normal, nothing is wrong.
I'll have to remember this for future bike I will get that get ride twice after purchase and left in the garage.
 

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Got it home

Lott's tail light.jpg

lotts mirrors.jpg

Lotts bobtail.jpg

lotts dash.jpg

Lotss 3 quarter rear.jpg Update: It was almost as easy as y'all made it sound....It took 4 miles of running through the gears and pumping the clutch. But, it finally started working as I was one block from the house. Finding driveways and places to pull off while I waited for lights to change made the trip home interesting. Made extra challenging by the fact that the mirrors pointed straight down and swung like my neighbors.

I am super excited about building this bike!!! Since the tail is bobbed already, I will go down that route. Big front tire, get rid of some pitting and paint stuff black. Maybe find some inexpensive bars to hang up front.

I will be doing boring stuff to it for now (fluids and safety stuff), because I'm going out of town for a month. But, I would love to hear ideas. Then when I get back, I will maybe start a new thread.

I'm amazed at how different this bike is from other rides! Can't use a jack, can't find the plugs or dipstick. Apparently some pic attachments rotate? So much to learn.

Thanks for all the help, I feel like this forum is going to be a lot of fun.

Truly,

Claude
 

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Awesome Claude! Thanks for the update and we’ll be following along with your build.


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Ive never heard of a clutch stuck that bad before - but if the bike has not been used for 12 years, Ive never heard of that either.

I assume the tires look like they are new as far as the tread, but you will probably want to replace them unless you are only going to putter around town on the bike for a while, and not take any fast curves. Its not that the tires are going to just blow out on you, the problem is the old rubber material loses most of its grip. You can practice skidding the back tire to a stop for a while before you get new ones: just remember once you lock up the back tire you have too keep it locked up, stay on the brake and steer it out, until the bike comes to a stop - otherwise the bike will snap back straight so fast it will throw you off the bike - usually over the handlebars.

I guess i should add: Dont ever lock up the front brake in a skid - the bike will drop so fast you wont know what happened.

on the photos - when I take vertical photos with my cell phone I have to open them on my PC and tell the photo editor to rotate them the right way (even if they already are the right way) and then save them. Then they load to the forum correctly. If I hold the phone horizontal they come out correct without any editing.
 

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Welcome and guess what...I just got a 1300 as well. Last year I dumped on a curve and "Mama" said no more bikes...then this Father's day, she gifted me my 1300...

I too am interested in any "issues" that are common with VSTARS...I had heard of the hydrolocking of the clutch before...

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View attachment 81436 Update: It was almost as easy as y'all made it sound....It took 4 miles of running through the gears and pumping the clutch. But, it finally started working as I was one block from the house. Finding driveways and places to pull off while I waited for lights to change made the trip home interesting. Made extra challenging by the fact that the mirrors pointed straight down and swung like my neighbors.

I am super excited about building this bike!!! Since the tail is bobbed already, I will go down that route. Big front tire, get rid of some pitting and paint stuff black. Maybe find some inexpensive bars to hang up front.

I will be doing boring stuff to it for now (fluids and safety stuff), because I'm going out of town for a month. But, I would love to hear ideas. Then when I get back, I will maybe start a new thread.

I'm amazed at how different this bike is from other rides! Can't use a jack, can't find the plugs or dipstick. Apparently some pic attachments rotate? So much to learn.

Thanks for all the help, I feel like this forum is going to be a lot of fun.

Truly,

Claude

No dipstick on this bike, just a site glass. Plugs are hidden under the plastic head covers.
 
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