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As you may have read here or on other forums, Ivan from Ivan's Performance Products in Congers NY, develops ECU flashes for injected bikes. Most recently he developed flashes for the 1900 (Raider, Stratoliner, Roadliner) and the Bolt. If you go to http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/index.htm you can check out his website. If you go to http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/raider.htm you can read about the Raider. The red one is my bike and I loaned him my bike for several months last winter so he could develop the flash. Read down and you'll see the impressive results.

He wants to develop flashes for the 950 and 1300 and is looking for donor bikes. See http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/vstar950.htm and http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/vstar13.htm.

This is a great way to help your fellow owners while at the same time getting a free flash and dyno tune from one of the best in the business. There isn't a V Twin around me that can touch my bike and it runs smoother, cooler and more efficiently. If you go to Roadstar Raider or the Yamaha Motorcycle Forum, you'll see posts with unanimous positive feedback. I first dealt with Ivan with my FZ1. I actually took him my bike to have him work on it. He's a 5 hour drive if that tells you anything. When he was looking for a donor Raider, I jumped at the opportunity.

So if you are somewhat local to Ivan and can do without your bike for a couple of months during the crappy weather, I recommend you give him a call. You an PM me for any details as well if you want.
 

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it seems that anyone who sent in their ECU to get flashed would get it dialed in with the air/exhaust setup that he programmed it for. so unless he were to imitate the same mods that someone like myself have, how would i know i'd be getting the 'correct' mapping?
 

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I would gladly donate my 1300 if Congers weren't several states away. I'll be following this one closely.
 

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it seems that anyone who sent in their ECU to get flashed would get it dialed in with the air/exhaust setup that he programmed it for. so unless he were to imitate the same mods that someone like myself have, how would i know i'd be getting the 'correct' mapping?
Fueling is handled through a fuel manager such as a Power Commander V. Ivan furnishes a map for the intake/exhaust setup you have on your bike. Like I said, take a look at some of the threads on some other forums.

It works.
 

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Fueling is handled through a fuel manager such as a Power Commander V. Ivan furnishes a map for the intake/exhaust setup you have on your bike.
i'm glad you mentioned the PCV. that particular FMS has a different mapping depending on which air intake and exhaust you have. so the mapping for a stock setup would be incorrect if you changed out your exhaust. you would have to download a map for your particular exhaust.

he states on his website that he buys bikes so he can flash the ECU and dyno test them and such. the charts he has for the Bolt are for stock setup, setup with slip-on exhaust, and a setup with one type of full twin exhaust. he got different dyno results for the full exhaust versus the slip-on. not to mention whatever differences to the air intake he tested. so unless he flashes the ECU for my exact bike setup, when i get it back, it's not going to have been mapped and set for my specific setup, so it's not going to be as accurate as the results he claims. right?
 

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No. It will work fine. Their are not great variances across similar setups. He comes up with several maps but not many. Read the reviews.
 

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Yeah, that was my takeaway as well. The flash is designed for certain setups but perhaps not every conceivable combination. I would still be interested if the bang is worth the buck.
 

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No. It will work fine. Their are not great variances across similar setups.
any variance at all means leaving torque and horsepower on the table. no offense, but i wouldn't spend a lot of money on something that was just "fine", or just 'better' than my current setup. if something is getting as finely tuned as these things are, it seems like it would defeat the purpose to get something finely tuned for a different setup than mine, then when i get it, i'm not getting the absolute best hp and torque as he claims. maybe these are questions he could address and that any variance would be minute. but according to his charts for the bolt, it seems enough that it would not make me a customer.

for instance, just look at the increases in performance between just the difference with his tuning on a stock air filter versus one with aftermarket:


 

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I think you're misinformed. For example the fueling for all 2-2 aftermarjet pipes is basically the same. The same goes for airbox mods. So given that, how many fuel tables do you think are required. My bike putting out 100HP and 130TQ isn't leaving anything on the table. The chart you posted pretty validates the gains. Compare the gains to stock.
 

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I think you're misinformed. For example the fueling for all 2-2 aftermarjet pipes is basically the same. The same goes for airbox mods.
gonna have to throw a big ol nope on that one. different shaped and sized exhausts provide different degrees of backpressure and flow of entropy, different temps affecting the O2 sensor, torque curve, and powerband (probably missing some other factors). and you can't honestly say that any aftermarket air kit performs the same as the next, or versus a home-made mod like drilling holes in the airbox. they all allow varying amounts of air to the intake with varying velocities.

and as far as the power comander requiring different mappings for different setups, this is what i've read from direct testimonials of bikers who post online.

maybe to you the difference between an extra HP here or there is not enough to make a difference, but to me it is definitely something i think should be addressed. i'm not contesting the gains over stock. i'm contesting the gains over someone's bike that already has aftermarket setups that he isn't using to 'finely tune' the ECU. case in point, his ECU flash showed different results on the Bolt with a full exhaust versus with a slip-on muffler. and nearly a 14% increase in HP on a bike with some kind of aftermarket air filter or intake setup versus stock. you can't say there wouldn't be any variances between different kinds of air setup on that chart.
 

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Thats fine. I'm not going to debate the efficacy of the product Ivan produces. The testmonials are out there, even on the other forum you went to digging for info. I'm not active on this board so I'll respect your opinion. Ivan has been tuning bikes all his life. For anyone that wants to take Ivan up on his offer, give him a call. I promise, you won't regret it. You will also receive mad props from others that will benefit from your action. Check out threads on RoadstarRaider, FZ1OA, and Stratoliner Deluxe for first hand feedback. Ride safe.
 

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He already has a reflash for the Stryker. I wonder what is so different about the Stryker that the same reflash can't be used?
 
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