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after mounting my tires i didn't like the amount of weights needed to balance them, so i dismounted them again and left just the tubes on the rim and located the actual heavy spot which was not at the valve stem then marked that spot and put the line up mark on the tire to the newly marked heavy spot. the tire only needed two 1/4 ounce weights instead of eight 1/4 ounce weights which cleaned up the looks nicely. this leads me to believe the valve stem is not the heavy spot on most tires especially the rear tire because of the weight of the drive housing hub and drum which are not balanced when manufactured.
 
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