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This is a great example of a person who should have their DL revoked and be forced to ride the bus for a few years.

Driving his big Dodge truck in the dark on the freeway with no headlights, not even DRL's, and staring down at his phone.

I don't think he ever knew I was there at any point in this video. It is hard to see, but he was looking down at his phone as I passed, just oblivious.

https://youtu.be/Y8p-lWIe1w0
 

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not sure if this is one of those situations where its good or bad to 'like' your post

good catch - It pays to be aware of how nuts the other people can be out there.
 

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not to argue, but i watched it several times and couldn't tell if the driver was on a phone. i never saw a phone, and can't definitively say the person is even looking down. and as for the headlights, they should be on at this point, but it looks like the sun had just recently started to set and there are a lot of lights on the road so the driver might not have realized it was dark enough already for theirs to be on and that everyone else already had theirs on. i'm willing to give this person some benefit of the doubt rather than want to take away their license for a few years.
 

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This is a great example of a person who should have their DL revoked and be forced to ride the bus for a few years.



Driving his big Dodge truck in the dark on the freeway with no headlights, not even DRL's, and staring down at his phone.



I don't think he ever knew I was there at any point in this video. It is hard to see, but he was looking down at his phone as I passed, just oblivious.



https://youtu.be/Y8p-lWIe1w0


I agree, sheesh! Unfortunately I see this a lot at work which is why I go through citation books quickly. Thanks for sharing this with us.


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I think Klurejr is saying he was clearly able to see the driver was looking down at something (phone), but it does not show well on the video.

When the low light AGC kicks on with video cameras the resolution and frame rate slows down and you are no longer getting full HD video.

I can clearly tell when a driver coming the other way is looking down at a phone, even when they are wearing glasses and you cant see their eyes - its the way they tip their head.

I think in many cases it would be better if we let people dial their phones and look at them while driving, as long as they hold the phone up by the windshield and have SOME peripheral vision out the windshield.
The way that everyone is holding their phones down on their lap while driving is taking a bad situation and making it worse, because they are trying to hide it.

People have always been distracted while driving: playing with the radio, looking at maps, Ham Radio and CB radio owners, looking for an address. The difference is people where not trying to hide what they were doing back then. When I first started driving back in the '70s I surprized myself a few times while looking at a map, and suddenly realizing I had not been 'looking' out the windshield for several seconds, but I was driving just fine. You can drive pretty well with your perpihial vision. Try it some time when you are a passenger in a car. Stare at the rear view mirror and see how much you can catch out the windshield.
 

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not to argue, but i watched it several times and couldn't tell if the driver was on a phone. i never saw a phone, and can't definitively say the person is even looking down. and as for the headlights, they should be on at this point, but it looks like the sun had just recently started to set and there are a lot of lights on the road so the driver might not have realized it was dark enough already for theirs to be on and that everyone else already had theirs on. i'm willing to give this person some benefit of the doubt rather than want to take away their license for a few years.
It is super hard to see in the video because I just briefly glanced at him and in the dark the GoPro is not the best. However this was at 6:15AM, the sun was rising. I have no idea how long he was driving, but it pitch black about 20 min before this.

People have always been distracted while driving: playing with the radio, looking at maps, Ham Radio and CB radio owners, looking for an address. The difference is people where not trying to hide what they were doing back then. When I first started driving back in the '70s I surprized myself a few times while looking at a map, and suddenly realizing I had not been 'looking' out the windshield for several seconds, but I was driving just fine. You can drive pretty well with your perpihial vision. Try it some time when you are a passenger in a car. Stare at the rear view mirror and see how much you can catch out the windshield.
There is some truth to this, but I am fine with a no tolerance rule as well. Driving is a privilege not a right.
 

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I have a 2 meter, 70cm and 10 meter radio in my truck. The difference in radios and cell phones is that radios are not full duplexing such as a phone. Other operators know mobiles do not answer calls immediately meaning you pause and leave breaks for emergency traffic and other operators can break in which is what you are supposed to do.
You should have punched his mirror and broke it.
 

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So you are not working CW on 80 meters on the highway at 80mph?!

Ive had my license since 1980, but have not owned any equipment in decades.
 

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So you are not working CW on 80 meters on the highway at 80mph?!

Ive had my license since 1980, but have not owned any equipment in decades.
No I leave HF for at home. Just tuning them can be a daunting task. Funny thing is, my Kenwood ts440 came with a mobile mounting bracket.
My mobiles you can control just about everything on the Mic so I do not have to look at the display and take my eyes off the road.
 

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you reminded me I renewed my license back in August and never got anything in the mail

went on the FCC website - you have to down load the document and print it yourself now.

Its funny, in the 40 years that Ive had my ham radio license, Ive never actually had to show it to anyone.

It might as well be a license to own Unicorns.
 

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you reminded me I renewed my license back in August and never got anything in the mail

went on the FCC website - you have to down load the document and print it yourself now.

Its funny, in the 40 years that Ive had my ham radio license, Ive never actually had to show it to anyone.

It might as well be a license to own Unicorns.
I had to renew mine too. I think they do send a letter if you if you have to reset your FRN password. What operator class are you? I ended up getting extra.
 

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I got mine when I was in college for my BSEE degree, so it was easy to get the advanced class.

Really not into CW, so never bothered for extra class.
 

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I got mine when I was in college for my BSEE degree, so it was easy to get the advanced class.

Really not into CW, so never bothered for extra class.
Yeah I am not into cw either. Usually phone and used to do psk.
I have a 440 repeater connected to a computer to do IRLP. Usually connected to east coast reflector.
All these people that use cell phones and text messaging can thank the amateur radio community for that technology.
 

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The thing i liked the most was SSB DX with just 100W on the antenna.

I talked to a guy at the South Pole research station for an hour one night from Buffalo, on 15 or 20 meters. We had a great conversation, and people kept trying to cut in to get a QSL card from him. He kept telling them to bugger off, we're talking here.

He was telling me about the 300 degree club (hot tub, outside, back in the hot tub...) and the 3 laps around the Earth race on the first day of spring.

The internet has taken the shine off of DX. Its not the same by a long stretch, but here we are talking to people all over the world like its nothing. Getting a good clear contact with Australia use to really be something to get excited about.
 

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Im getting a sign from Bevo...

whats that? Oh, we have to break for a commercial.

After these messages we'll be right back!

:^O
 

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... but I am fine with a no tolerance rule as well. Driving is a privilege not a right.
Agreed wholeheartedly!


... As far as texting goes...YOU HAVE A PHONE!

Mr Bell didn't invent the phone so we could use it to write a fu**ing letter with.

My God...

ROFLMAO!! Seriously!! I grew up with rotary dial phones and push buttons were a vast improvement. Then the suit case sized mobile phones became a thing and I was floored by that tech. Then phones were reduced in size to handheld portables... holy crap... talk about Buck Rodger's level of futurism!! And of course the development of smartphones were the end all of mind blowing developments... oh, but you can can text a message! Seriously?!!!! That's what we've 'advanced' to?!! What's the next step... reverting back to morse code messages on technology that we can stream HD videos on?!!!! Let me post a pic of my fancy espresso macchiato on Instagram and I'll describe it's flavorful characteristics in dots and dashes.
 

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Because you can send a message and do not have to get instant reply.
If you receive a message, you can answer it at your leisure.
You can also communicate without disturbing others such as a doctors office, waiting at an oil change shop etc.
 
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