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I like the sound of the third one, not too loud, but not too quiet either.


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I like the 1.75 baffle set, the first one, past stock...nice deep bass...loud if you honk on the pipes, raw...but won't fatigue you, or p*** off anybody around you...city or highway...but loud enough if you are going to pass, like two or three cars on a two lane...at full throttle...then, back down to no-fatigue at cruise....

I also like the larger diameter 'heft' of them....hmmmm.....

hmmmm....finger tapping on desk....hmmmm.... :)>:)

Hey Keith...don't you think a set of these would make a great birthday present from a guy's wife? What do you think? I'll have to print the page...and er...ah...oh jeeze, clumsy of me...messy of me leaving the printed page on her side of the double sink bathroom counter top....something to view as she is brushing her teeth.... ;) "Hon...why is this page of mufflers here?" "Oh...yeah....yeah, that.....I was looking at that site, and decided that would be the next great addition to the bike,...just er...move it over to my sink..."....
 

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I couldn’t agree more! That would a VERY thoughtful gift ! Umm...let’s see...the little subliminal messages lying around the house...lol.


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Keith, I already have Stage II planned...next to print out the copy of what the screen looks like with an order of the 1.75's in the website Shopping Basket....

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"Hon...HON....!"

"Yes?"...

"WHY is this page of a computer site Shopping Basket, with er...a set of some exhaust pipes..er...1.75 or something, ***sitting here*** (female irritation in voice...) on my side of the kitchen table?"...

"Oh, er..that...yeah...I was playing around with the site...and just for fun, loaded up the Shopping Cart with the set that I would buy myself...perhaps at a later time. By accident, I pressed the printer print key..., just move it to one side after you give it a good look, Dee-Dee, ........or not...".

"Right.......right.......".

"Love you!", said from the Den....>:):nerd:

"Yeah...love you right back, Joe...." said from the kitchen table.........
 

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I like the 1.75s too. While I appreciate Yama tuning the mufflers to sound musically correct, I still like a little more badass sound. I like the sound of my Freedom Performance pipes on my Road Stars.

Probably need to research it some more. I wonder if the restriction is more than what's on the Eluder stock.

I've already spent a bundle on things I needed on my two R*s, so it's time to start spending more on the new bike.

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Just an FYI for anyone interested in this nice addition to their Venture or Eluder...
I spoke with TAB Performance today about the tune modification that will be needed to properly take advantage of the upgrade. The guy I spoke with “Daniel” said they currently have “Dyno Tune” working on the proper tune for the pipes and are AWARE that the SVTC has TWO throttle modes. The tune modules they are working on will take that into account. Daniel said they should be available shortly. Probably 2 weeks.
 

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Just an FYI for anyone interested in this nice addition to their Venture or Eluder...
I spoke with TAB Performance today about the tune modification that will be needed to properly take advantage of the upgrade. The guy I spoke with “Daniel” said they currently have “Dyno Tune” working on the proper tune for the pipes and are AWARE that the SVTC has TWO throttle modes. The tune modules they are working on will take that into account. Daniel said they should be available shortly. Probably 2 weeks.
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I read that as saying you will screw something up and will need additional electronics that we will sell you to fix your bike. I'm sure that won't be any problem with Yamaha for any warranty coverage.

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Just an FYI for anyone interested in this nice addition to their Venture or Eluder...
I spoke with TAB Performance today about the tune modification that will be needed to properly take advantage of the upgrade. The guy I spoke with “Daniel” said they currently have “Dyno Tune” working on the proper tune for the pipes and are AWARE that the SVTC has TWO throttle modes. The tune modules they are working on will take that into account. Daniel said they should be available shortly. Probably 2 weeks.
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I read that as saying you will screw something up and will need additional electronics that we will sell you to fix your bike. I'm sure that won't be any problem with Yamaha for any warranty coverage.

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Not at all RonK. We all know it’s “suck, bang, blow”, anytime one of those parameters is changed beyond a certain point then you need to adjust the tuning. When talking to the technician he said “The Venture/Eluder OEM time can self adjust for about a 15% dynamic change. These exhaust systems flow beyond that and that is why it’s highly recommended you re-map the tuning parameters. Some people are more adept and can hook up a tuning module and create their own, others of us (myself included) need that done by a professional.
I’ve already checked with my dealership and NO it will not void my warranty.
I also don’t have time to install my new Hitch Dr. receiver hitch, so the dealership is installing that for me along with the wiring harness. Again, NO this is not voiding any part of my warranty.
I’m sorry some people have to deal with crappy service centers looking for any reason to get out of warranty coverage. I guess that’s the benefit of working with the highest rated dealership in the area.
 

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Just an FYI for anyone interested in this nice addition to their Venture or Eluder...
I spoke with TAB Performance today about the tune modification that will be needed to properly take advantage of the upgrade. The guy I spoke with “Daniel” said they currently have “Dyno Tune” working on the proper tune for the pipes and are AWARE that the SVTC has TWO throttle modes. The tune modules they are working on will take that into account. Daniel said they should be available shortly. Probably 2 weeks.
Chief...those modules, would they be a plug 'n play installation? I have never modified fuel maps on any of my bikes...so, am in the dark about this voodoo....:)
 

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I read that as saying you will screw something up and will need additional electronics that we will sell you to fix your bike. I'm sure that won't be any problem with Yamaha for any warranty coverage.

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Perhaps, this is something one would consider, AFTER warranty is over. I'm sort of liking the 2.5's now...but also wonder if my great 42 MPG would also be affected...less back pressure, usually means lower MPG.
 

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Just an FYI for anyone interested in this nice addition to their Venture or Eluder...
I spoke with TAB Performance today about the tune modification that will be needed to properly take advantage of the upgrade. The guy I spoke with “Daniel” said they currently have “Dyno Tune” working on the proper tune for the pipes and are AWARE that the SVTC has TWO throttle modes. The tune modules they are working on will take that into account. Daniel said they should be available shortly. Probably 2 weeks.
Chief...those modules, would they be a plug 'n play installation? I have never modified fuel maps on any of my bikes...so, am in the dark about this voodoo..../forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
YES it is.
 

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Chief...those modules, would they be a plug 'n play installation? I have never modified fuel maps on any of my bikes...so, am in the dark about this voodoo....:)
If you want to keep your warranty in tact don't do it, they will use your reprogramming of the ECU or a device that is after the ECU that changes the programming to deny a warranty claim.

The auto manufactures have been doing that and they can tell how many times the ECU has been reprogrammed because they have a counter built into the programming that keep track.
 

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If you want to keep your warranty in tact don't do it, they will use your reprogramming of the ECU or a device that is after the ECU that changes the programming to deny a warranty claim.

The auto manufactures have been doing that and they can tell how many times the ECU has been reprogrammed because they have a counter built into the programming that keep track.
I thought as much, Bill. I wonder if you just put the mufflers on...and didn't mess around with the fuel maps...what do you think, then?
 

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I thought as much, Bill. I wonder if you just put the mufflers on...and didn't mess around with the fuel maps...what do you think, then?
All I can say about that is Reinhart says their 4 inch muffler for the Harley Davidson's does not require the ECU to be reprogramed, but if you are at a dealer they swear up and down that you do have to reprogram the ECU and they will only sell you the Harley Davidson tuner.

But I think they may have even stopped selling their own tuner because HD got hammered by the EPA over it.

I had a set of Reinhart 4 inch mufflers on my 2016 Ultra Limited and a set of Vance & Hines headers, an Arlen Ness Big Sucker intake plus I had the Vance & Hines FP3 tuner so Harley Davidson would have denied me warranty but I did not purchase any extended warranties on the motorcycle and I traded it in at the 2 1/2 year mark anyway.
 
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