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since I got my license 6 years ago I have always felt that

1. I know that MC riders are at risk of accidents, and usually its not our fault if we ride defensively

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2. If I get knocked off my bike by someone else, once I hit the pavement what happens after that is 100% on me.

When I got my first set of gear the guy at the bike shop showed me the gear he was wearing when he hit a deer at 50mph and highsided over the handlebars. His FF helmet looked like someone attacked it with an angle grinder. His jacket and pants were in rough shape but intact.

He was able to get up and walk away. I was inspired.
 

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I’m with you guys...in theory. It gets above 90 and, at least for me, it’s absolute misery to be in a FF and substantial gear. I would much prefer to stay off the bike in those conditions, in that gear. Therefore, I assume the greater risk with lesser gear when it’s hot. It’s on me if I take a spill and get tore up—I accept that.
 

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In the past there have been many threads about riding gear. This might be a good time to revisit them and post your likes and dislikes. I personally ride with helmet, jacket, gloves and boots every time I ride. I have and use chaps and protected over pants about 50% of the time. Protective gear a personal choice and encourage all to use. I do believe everyone has the choice to do what they think is best for them. Except when effects me. People who choose not to wear protection and in an accident drive up the cost of insurance due to medical costs which I'm forced to pay. I realized this is a debated subject and don't want to force my will upon others, I just all to ride as safely as possible.

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/115742-helmet-do-you-ride-do-you-wear-one.html?highlight=Helmet

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/116718-summer-gloves.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/116724-riding-pants.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/116722-summer-boots-shoes.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/116720-summer-jackets.html

https://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/116102-riding-jeans.html
 

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I’m with you guys...in theory. It gets above 90 and, at least for me, it’s absolute misery to be in a FF and substantial gear. ...
maybe the answer goes without saying, but when its over 90F you do take the windshield off your motorcycle, yes?

I lived in Iowa for 4 years, in the summer it was so hot the only way we could sit outside was to sit in the shade of the garage, and put the garden hose in the gutter over our heads, spraying out a fine mist.

Ive wondered if putting something similar on a motorcycle would be viable for very hot days, a mist that sprays on your mesh jacket while you are riding, to keep your shirt damp in the windblast ?
 

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maybe the answer goes without saying, but when its over 90F you do take the windshield off your motorcycle, yes?

I lived in Iowa for 4 years, in the summer it was so hot the only way we could sit outside was to sit in the shade of the garage, and put the garden hose in the gutter over our heads, spraying out a fine mist.

Ive wondered if putting something similar on a motorcycle would be viable for very hot days, a mist that sprays on your mesh jacket while you are riding, to keep your shirt damp in the windblast ?
When I first bought my 'liner, it was completely naked, and I wore only a full-face helmet. After the first year or so, I pretty much quit riding because the wind was beating the ever-lovin' stuffing outta me. I know "buffeting" isn't supposed to happen without a shield or fairing, but I'm telling you...I was getting a very violent, vibrating wind effect. You know the feeling where you think your eyeballs are gonna get shaken outta their sockets? Maybe it's my height, maybe it's the design of the 'liner, maybe it's my size 8 noggin, I don't know. But I didn't start riding much again until I got somewhat comfortable, and I didn't get comfortable until I put both a windshield and fork deflectors on. I still get plenty o' wind out there, for my taste.

I like the idea of a bike mister, but I'm not sure anything will help much in the dog days of summer. Over the course of July, August, and early September we'll probably catch 60 days of 100+. No amount of wind helps cool you off when it's that hot, in my experience. My guess is the air temps reach 130 or so 3, 4, 5 feet above the asphalt. I usually just wimp out till it eases up.
 

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you can get turbulent head buffeting without a windshield, sometimes the air blasting off the headlight will become chaotic, or the shape of your helmet and visor may not be ideal for sitting in an up-right posture

Sometimes I take the windshield off my 650 and leave the fork deflectors on - it throws a lot of laminar air up into my chest and helmet at 40 to 60 mph, but at highway speeds there is very little air hitting my chest, but its trying to blow my head off. No buffeting but I have to lean way forward to balance the wind blast.

when its hot the wind only cools you down if your body has a layer of moisture to evaporate. On a motorcycle with no windbreaker layer you can get dehydrated quickly on a hot day, you keep sweating it out, and the wind keeps stripping it away.

There is a point where its just too hot to ride, wait till the sun goes down. Its the opposite of us here in the Great White North in January.
 

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KCW that is an interesting thought about the mist on a bike. Hmmmmm….. Perhaps adding a large over-flow-type plastic tank under the light somewhere with an electric pump feeding into tubes that are strategically deployed somewhere good (of course every bike would be different as to where). Have it operated by a button that you can activate when the need comes to you. On and off. Not constant operation as that would waste water too quickly. Make it run only when you want it.

Sounds good in theory but in practical operation, who knows?
 

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^ seems like a lot of work, a bottle of carbonated water would pressurize itself....
 

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I have been using a cool vest under a mesh jacket when it is real hot . The humidity is low here so it cools well and lasts a couple of hours before having to add more water. A wet t shirt under the mesh dries out in about 15 or 20 miles, so it's good for shorter distances.
 

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Here's another thought. Got me a modular and it's huge in comparison to my half helmet. Not getting that in saddlebags. What does everyone do with their Helmets when they get of the bike and go in somewhere, like the movies or shopping? Carry em I'm guessing..

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I've hung my helmet on my mirror for forty years and have never had anyone mess with it including a 15 day trip to Hawaii. Although my 3/4 is nothing special.
 

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I lock mine on handlebar. You can easily lock two helmets together. Try to position it top up. I actually had a bird take a dump in mine once, yes, really. I have a cable lock like below. One end is small and fits thru D ring.


 

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Hmm, no D ring on these, quick release ratchet type. Carry or trust I guess.

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Not all my helmets have D ring. I run cable threw eye opening. Not a good picture but hopefully you can see cable. This is one of my modular helmets.

 

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Another thing I do. I have a longer cable that I run through my jacket sleeve to secure it so I don't have to carry it. Living in Houston I don't trust everyone. But I will carry both helmet and jacket on with me most of the time. For a quick run into the store not worth the time to lock everything up.
 
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