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I wanted to buy heated jacket liner & heated pants liner from Cycle Gear but they sales associate told me the pants liner is to be worn against the skin not over my jeans? Does anyone else have heated pants liner? How do you where yours?
 

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I wanted to buy heated jacket liner & heated pants liner from Cycle Gear but they sales associate told me the pants liner is to be worn against the skin not over my jeans? Does anyone else have heated pants liner? How do you where yours?
I do not have a heated liner but I do have heated gloves and they are the best investment I have ever made. To your question, any type of liner, glove liner, jacket liner, pant liner, is made to be against your skin. Most liners are fairly thin and have no windproofing or waterproofing. Plus the liner is not strong enough to warm through your jeans.
 

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I believe they are supposed to be worn under the jeans, on top of a thin style undergarment (kind of like those new space age fabric thermal underwear). My buddy bought one of the pants liner like you did, and he wears his over his jeans. It acts like a wind break as well as offering some additional heat from the electric elements. He complained that wearing them under his jeans, the heat got too much in one particular area, making them uncomfortable.

Santa brought me a set of pants liners like my friends, and as soon as real life allows, I'll give it a try on both ways. I'm also interested in hearing how others wear their electric gear. It's nice to not have to feel like the Michellin Man on cold days.
 

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I don't own any heated gear but typically a "liner" goes inside whatever you are wearing. Jacket, gloves, etc. To me putting it under your jeans, or any other garment, now makes it thermal underwear.
My riding jacket has a removable liner but I don't zip it out and wear it under my shirt. That just doesn't makes sense to me.
 

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maybe you worded things for simplicity, but if you are actually riding in the cold wearing jeans, you might want to take a different approach.

I ride in the very late fall and early spring in temps down to 40F. I normally wear two pairs of heavy Wrangle or Lee jeans, the outside pair is 2" larger in waist size than my normal pants. I could also wear regular thermal underpants, but its easier to take off an outer pair of extra jeans at work, than to go in the mens room and take off thermal underwear.

I wear a thermal long sleeve T shirt, a heavy cotton shirt, and my 3 layer Tourmaster MC jacket. I made a pull over for my neck and chin, and with a full face helmet and wool socks, the only part of me that normally gets cold is my hands, more specifically my fingers. Riding my normal 30 minute commute Im comfortable. Better still if I have my Memphis Shades "Fats" windshield on the bike. I have a couple pairs of gloves that are tolerable - keeping my hands behind the windshield makes the biggest difference.

If you are going to try to keep part of your body warm with heated clothing, you have to keep your whole body warm then. Your metabolism averages things out, if you have heated pants and a vest, your arms and hands and feet will get cold.

By itself your body generates about 500W of heat just standing or sitting. Keeping that heat trapped is usually all you need.

A different approach would be to get leather pants and a wind tight leather jacket. Even in the open wind leather does not let the cold air strip away the layer of warm and moist air from your skin. I think that riding when its cold out, within reason, is a good form of exercise for your system, keeping yourself warm out in the cold is a bit more robust than riding in a car with the heater set to "toast".
 

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I have rode in temps in the teens and have never gotten cold. I wear one of those one-piece snowmobile suits and a leather jacket and chaps. No thermals, just regular pants like jeans underneath for when I take the suit off. You can get one of these for like $30-$60 at Walmart. The liners would be nice to have though for fall riding when its too warm for the suit but too cold for only jeans
 

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Save your money on heated clothing.
Just layer lightly.
I ride all the time in the winter when there is not any snow or ice on the ground and will be riding tomorrow morning. It will be 30 in the morning and almost 50 for the ride home.
The trick is to keep the wind off you.
I wear a pair of windproof over pants.
When I don't wear those, I wear thermal bottom and top.
I wear a shirt over the top then my leather jacket and a pair of canvas type material pants (carhardt) over the bottom thermals.
Use gloves with gauntlets to prevent air injection.
Regular boots and socks work fine also.
I rode in 24 degree weather new years eve and was fine.
I saw 2 motorcycles on the road this morning matter of fact. I was jealous.
 

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I have a pair of leather chaps with a insulated zip out liner and a heavy leather jacket. I have added heated grips a few years ago to the bike. I'm not really much on the leather jacket because I've had the cold come through the jacket, my heavy sweatshirt, tee shirt causing me to get cold in temperatures of low 30's or colder on a long ride. I wanted heated gear to not feel like the michelin man when riding in the cold but was thinking pants liner to wear over my jeans (possibly under my chaps) when riding to work. I also have a couple pair of insulated jeans, a non-leather jacket (has a liner that can be zipped out), insulated carhart bids, and a pair of gator skins.

2 years ago, I took my youngest daughter for a ride in sub 30 temps. Unfortunately, I went to far causing both of us to become cold before we got back home. Since then, I haven't really rode in cold temps.
@NCDaveD, please let us know your real world experience with the heated liners.
 

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Definitely no riding where I live. It goes up to minus 20 Celsius during the day....minus 30 Celsius at night. All the roads are covered in snow and ice. Motorcycling doesn't really start until mid April but it freezes at night at that time of year.
 

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Definitely no riding where I live. It goes up to minus 20 Celsius during the day....minus 30 Celsius at night. All the roads are covered in snow and ice. Motorcycling doesn't really start until mid April but it freezes at night at that time of year.
That sucks. We had an extremely light winter this year so got lucky.
There is a person on you tube that has a ktm enduro type of bike with studded tires in Canada and does amazingly well in the snow.
 

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As soon as I get a chance to try out the pants liners, I'll let you know my personal opinions (FWIW).

Before Christmas last year, I had electric gloves and a long sleeve electric coat liner. My gloves are indispensable as my hands are always cold (probably poor circulation at my age) and it's great to hit the button and feel that wonderful warmth course through my hands. Before I purchased my coat liner, my layers of clothing protection worked fine, just took forever to put on/take off and made it very difficult to get on/off the bike and move around. Now its long sleeve shirt, electric liner, jacket and I'm good to go. With the layers, by the time it all got on and were ready to hit the road, I would be sweating like crazy.

As for the pants, for colder weather, I would wear (2) sets of thermal long johns, Bohn armored lowers, and fleece lined riding pants (I shouldn't have called them jeans, sorry about that). Many times I would start out like this and at the first opportunity to stop, I'd have to pull over and put on my Frogg Togg rain suit lowers to act as a wind break to get my legs comfortable.

Christmas brought both the electric pants and heated socks so I can keep everything warm with a minimum of effort. The only negative I see is having to strip down a little further in the gas station bathrooms to remove these items once it warms up on a long days drive. You know the kind.....cold bright morning, delightful afternoon and then cools back down in the early evening.

My first bike couldn't handle the electric load of all this gear, which is one of the reasons I upgraded to the V Star 1300, even though I loved that little C50. Can't wait to give the full setup a tryout!
 

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I recently bought some battery powered heated gloves. I find them rather cheap. There must be better ones somewhere. It rarely gets above 80F where I live. Temperatures vary greatly during a 24 hour period. Even when just being outdoors, jackets are common during the evening. Nice warm evenings are not common. However, when it does get hot during the day and the evenings are warm, almost everybody is outdoors to appreciate the weather. Yes, it's impossible to ride during the winter but we have lots of time to work on our bikes and shine them up. My 1999 V-Star 650 Classic has only 12,000 miles on it. I bought it late last fall and only got to add only 1 km.
 
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