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Hey all from Southern Indiana gonna be getting a v star either 1300,650 or 110 this fall figured I'd go ahead and join and learn as much as I can

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Welcome from Houston, Texas. Will this be your first bike? What type of riding do you plan on doing, around town, daily commuter, long trips, riding solo or two up? There are many here that fit any riding style and sure you will get recommendations. Here's a few interesting threads to check out when you get a chance.

StarBikeForums Bike of the Month - Star Motorcycle Forums: Star Raider, V-Max, V-Star, Road-Star Forum

http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/49-v-star/5655-yammy-ya-got.html?highlight=Yammy

http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/36-lounge/110258-where-you.html

http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/11-general-bike-talk/25113-how-experienced-you.html

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2nd bike first one was a 94 fxdl but don't have deep enough pockets for another one. Commuting, weekend cruises with the wife and probably vacationing when it's just us. I'm leaning towards the 1300 but if the 650 would be okay for both of us (both are between 200 and 220 each) with all our gear then we could save a couple grand

650s around here are anywhere from 1200 to 3k
1300 are usually 3 to 5
We're not wanting to spend over 4k

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Found this listing for carrying capacity. Depends on web site but all were within about 10 pounds.

V Star 650: depending upon the model, 392 lbs to 441 lbs;
V Star 950: 463 lbs.....950T: 419 lbs
V Star 1100 Classic: 396 lbs
V Star 1300: 463 lbs.....1300T: 419 lbs
Roadliner: 463 lbs.....Stratoliner: 410 lbs.

I ride an 1100 and can tell you 400 is about right without affecting ride or handling.
 

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So with both of us and gear we'd be probably a few pounds over on all models we're looking at.... What does Yamaha expect on their bikes twigs and carpenter dreams?

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Welcome from Atlantic Canada, Dan. I don't think you'd be happy with a 650 for your needs. It's a great bike and can hold its own on the highway, but riding two up on the highway might be a little much for it. I'm sure some of the 650 riders here can give a better review, though. (KCW?...lol)

I have an 1100 and the two of us weigh about the same as you two. It's great around town and on the highway solo. With both of us it's still good around town and it's adequate at highway speeds, but I wish I'd have gone a little bigger. It'll cruise along at 70 or 80 with two no problem but has to work a little harder on hills at highway speeds. It's good for short highway cruises but if I were going to do any amount of touring I'd want something with a little longer legs.

I think the 1300 would work great for you. Personally if I were to trade up it would be to a Road Star, mainly because it's a long stroke, air cooled, old school kind of bike, but that's just my preference (I like high torque at low RPM). You should be able to find one in your price range too. Don't let the 1700cc worry you - they're nicely balanced and don't feel as heavy as you'd think.

In the end, you can't go wrong with any of the Star bikes as far as being dependable, but make sure you get the one that will suit your needs best.
 

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Hi dan, welcome to the forum. You’re getting great advice from our members. For the kind of riding you’re planning on, I’d also go for the 1300. With a few minor performance enhancers, you should have no issues.


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I agree with NortherRider, they don't make them new anymore, but you can find a Road Star (1600 or 1700 about 65HP) for $4k. I would not mind having one myself.

Another bike to look at is the Royal Star - its a V4 water cooled cruiser. Its also the basis of the older Venture series full fairing/bagger bikes.

I like riding my 650 just about anywhere solo, esp without the windshield, on secondary roads, travelling light (change of clothes and a pocket full of cash). I have seen people fully load up a 650 with 2 up and a bunch of camping gear, and its makes me cringe.

Its all a matter of tradeoffs - there are several larger Vstar bikes that would be good for a 3 day weekend trip, staying in a cabin or a hotel, and not carrying a lot of stuff. If you really want to go touring you might want to consider a used Goldwing.
 

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My buddy's dad has a 1500 goldwing for 2500 but when I sat on it I got instant thigh cramps and had to be helped off it
Probably going with a 1300
 

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BTW, cool that you are planning so far ahead. I decided to get my MC license in August 5 years ago, looked into taking the MSF course in the fall, but did not take it till the end of May the next year. That spring, waiting to get my license, I was like a little kid crossing off the days on the calendar.

Also wanted to say that any riding you can do on a MC is a great experience. If you decide a bigger Vstar bike does not have the load capabilities for the kind of touring you would like to do, then riding 2 up around town and taking long rides in the country in the evening and on weekends is still well worth the investment.

EDIT: just read your last post - I took an '83 GW for a test ride, and I kept wanting to put my feet on the cylinder heads.
 

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Yeah my wife is kicking my ass for selling the Harley a month or 2 before we met

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consider yourself lucky - a lot of wives tell new husbands "that motorcycle thing has to go...."
 

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I had an intuitive feeling about this, google found this from the MSF:

Towing a Trailer Behind a Motorcycle

Not Recommended

From time to time, we get questions about towing a trailer behind a motorcycle. You should never tow a trailer behind a motorcycle unless your motorcycle has been designed to do so. However, we're not aware of any motorcycle manufacturer that has designed a two-wheeled motorcycle to tow a trailer. In fact, motorcycle manufacturers warn against the towing of a trailer.

For example, this warning appears in a late model Harley-Davidson touring bike owner's manual:
Do not pull a trailer with a motorcycle. Pulling a trailer can cause tire overload, damage and failure, reduced braking performance, and adversely affect stability and handling, which could result in death or serious injury.

Additionally, tire manufacturers typically warn against this activity.

The following appears in the Dunlop motorcycle tire tips guide:
Trailers may contribute to motorcycle instability, grossly exaggerated tire stresses and overload. Such stresses and overload can cause irreversible damage resulting in sudden tire failure, accident, injury or death. Dunlop does not warrant tires used on motorcycles fitted with trailers.

These types of warnings are based on real issues. First, not only are you pulling the weight of the trailer, but a portion of the load is bearing downward at the point where the trailer attaches to the motorcycle. This is called trailer tongue weight (generally ten percent of the weight of a properly loaded trailer), and when added to the weight of the motorcycle, rider, passenger, other accessories and cargo, the total may exceed the allowable load for the motorcycle and its tires. This can lead to tire blowout or suspension failure.

Second, the weight, momentum, and aerodynamics of a trailer may impair the bike’s maneuverability, traction, acceleration, and braking response. Third, a manufacturer cannot test every aftermarket accessory with every model they make, and they warn consumers in their owner's manuals that modifications may put riders at risk.

Given these concerns, MSF cannot recommend the use of a trailer on a motorcycle that wasn’t designed or approved by the manufacturer for towing one.


The real issue would be in a curve, if you speed up or slow down, the forces the trailer would put on the frame of the motorcycle would make it squirrely as hell.

I think if you had a trike then a trailer might be acceptable.

If Im going to have 4 tires on the pavement, I would get a Miata and keep the top down.
 

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My parents did it for years with an flt and an 82 goldwing but not my cup of tea

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Towing a trailer contradicts my concept of riding being an expression of freedom

you are not free if you have to cart around 200 lbs of baggage. :^)

It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly.
– Henry David Thoreau
 

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Agreed if I can't put it in saddlebags or a tour bag it ain't going
It contradicts my concept of riding being an expression of freedom

you are not free if you have to cart around 200 lbs of baggage. :^)
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