motorcycle deaths caused by autopilot
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Telsas are cool, don't get me wrong. My cousin has one and it's... I don't know how to correctly spell the word - boujee? BUT would you put your kid in a driver-less car and send them off to school?
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I don't even have any kind of cruise control on my motorcycle and with how many flatbeds Teslas have run into, I don't trust any of it.
I used to repair electronics, I know how much they screw up. I cringe when I see my card disappear into an ATM wondering if I will ever see it again.
I used to repair electronics, I know how much they screw up. I cringe when I see my card disappear into an ATM wondering if I will ever see it again.
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Elon hates motorcycles! 
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As a Tesla owner I can confirm there is not a single Tesla on the road that is driverless. All driver assist features currently available requires a driver and for the driver to pay attention. You are checked about every 30 seconds to make sure you are paying attention. This would be like blaming cruise control for running over someone. FAKE NEWS if the video says anything other than that.
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I think the problem is too many Tesla drivers believe the cars CAN actually drive themselves without user input. It doesn't help that Tesla calls it "Autopilot", but it really isn't and this world is full of idiots. There have been a number of reported fatal accidents blamed on driver inattention while the car did not avoid the collision. The video addresses two such collisions.where somehow, the "Autopilot" managed to not recognize motorcycles in front of it and just ran over them while the driver apparently did nothing to intervene. I wish Tesla would change the name of "Autopilot" to something else and also automatically disengage the system if it determines the driver is not paying attention. If it's already supposed to do that it needs to be sensitized to more aggressively disengage. IMHO.
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It does. It is very annoying. You have to keep pressure on the wheel and now it even tracks your eyes. It does a good job driving most of the time but you have to pay attention all of the time. It's like every other driver assist system except for the press coverage.
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That's good to know. My 2021 Hyundai has some "driver assist" features, most of which I turn off because I find them annoying and I guess I'm too "old school". The adaptive cruise control can be pretty nice, I run it more often that the other "assists", but I often worry if it will react to motorcycles. So far I haven't come up on a bike moving slower than me while I'm on cruise control to see how it operates.
Hopefully they (Tesla and everyone else) continue to improve the system(s), because some of the past failures have been pretty spectacular, and deadly.
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My 2019 Buick also monitors eye activity.
If you are not paying attention, or looking down too long, it flashes a message on the screen to warn you.
Personally, I like these safety features and is really why I bought the vehicle with all the bells and whistles.
As I get older I need all the help I can get.
I appreciate anything that keeps me and others safe
If you are not paying attention, or looking down too long, it flashes a message on the screen to warn you.
Personally, I like these safety features and is really why I bought the vehicle with all the bells and whistles.
As I get older I need all the help I can get.
I appreciate anything that keeps me and others safe
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is this fake news?
Tesla driver slept as car was going over 80 mph on Autopilot, Wisconsin officials say
A 38-year-old driver from Palatine, Illinois, was ticketed and accused of sleeping behind the wheel of a 2019 Tesla, according to a sheriff's report.
or this:
or this:
or this:
Ontario driver caught sleeping on the highway behind the wheels of a Tesla on Autopilot
Tesla always warns its driver to use Autopilot responsibly. However, not all of them heed the warning. One Tesla driver in Ontario was spotted apparently sleeping while the car drove itself on the highway. Drivers [...]
driveteslacanada.ca
or this:
Video shows Tesla driver asleep at the wheel on Interstate 5 in San Diego
Video shows driver of a Tesla asleep at the wheel
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there are a BUNCH more. i never called them "driverless", but the evidence is pretty clear that you do NOT have to pay attention or provide any input for the car to drive itself down the highway. at least not every 30 seconds. unless that is a very new upgrade as the last 2 articles were published in just the past month. or everyone of these people are finding ways to bypass the software. and an audio warning does not make you do anything. props to that last news station for instructing everyone how to bypass the system.
but this is all besides the point of my question: which are you more concerned about as a biker - sharing the road with autopilot vehicles, or human-driven vehicles?
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All vehicles are human driven. People do dumb stuff. One of the ways to fool a Tesla was to hang a slight weight off of the steering wheel to fool the system into thinking you had your hand on the wheel. Once it became known Tesla added eyes to the safety list. People do stupid stuff. Tesla has the safest driver assist in the world.
It also has the safest car ever tested.
Tesla Model Y Gets Highest Safety Score Ever In European Test
Tesla’s fast-selling Model Y crossover has received the highest safety score of any car analyzed under Euro NCAP’s newest and toughest test. The Model Y achieved a 92% score, while its nearest competitors top out at 89%.
www.forbes.com
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I;m an auto mechanic, and with all the low bidder JUNK electronics they put in cars today, I'd be damned to hell if I trusted ANY of it with my life.
If the auto industry would buy the same stuff aircraft are using, I'd feel a whole lot better, but now that $90,000 truck is going to cost $160k ...
If the auto industry would buy the same stuff aircraft are using, I'd feel a whole lot better, but now that $90,000 truck is going to cost $160k ...
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I own a Tesla as well. I am also an engineer and have done programming for vision inspection equipment. The amount of information these have to crunch to understand the world they’re operating in is absolutely ridiculous! It’s also why all newer Tesla’s come with a super computer that would’ve broken records just a decade ago; now they’re in every car. It’s insane.
I think going to full vision is a mistake. At least with radar you could “see” things that can hide in optical illusions. They swear they’re doing better than ever but I think it’s just because they don’t have to reconcile multiple sensors worth of data to make decisions. I fear we’ll see a lot more of these stories in the years ahead as Tesla Vision becomes the prevalent tech in these cars.
Luckily, my car is a 2016 with only forwards facing cameras and plenty of other sensors so I doubt they’ll remove radar from my sensor suite.
As for the OP’s question, I’m much more afraid of people driving than technology. I’ve had too many people look me dead on and still move into my lane. I’m always aware and take evasive maneuvers, even before I’m in imminent danger, but yeah, PEOPLE scare me way more than computer drivers.
I think going to full vision is a mistake. At least with radar you could “see” things that can hide in optical illusions. They swear they’re doing better than ever but I think it’s just because they don’t have to reconcile multiple sensors worth of data to make decisions. I fear we’ll see a lot more of these stories in the years ahead as Tesla Vision becomes the prevalent tech in these cars.
Luckily, my car is a 2016 with only forwards facing cameras and plenty of other sensors so I doubt they’ll remove radar from my sensor suite.
As for the OP’s question, I’m much more afraid of people driving than technology. I’ve had too many people look me dead on and still move into my lane. I’m always aware and take evasive maneuvers, even before I’m in imminent danger, but yeah, PEOPLE scare me way more than computer drivers.
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Apparently Tesla's can't fly, but 4 people survived a 250 foot fall from a cliff on California Hwy 1. And the batteries didn't explode on impact. Never been a big fan, but I gotta say I'm impressed with this story.
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That's friggin NUTS! It's a wonder anyone survived that! Amazing piloting skills by the EMS heli crew that got them out of there - that video was great!
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Holy cow, I just read that the driver may have purposely run off the road in a murder suicide scenario. Risked his family and the first responders. Unreal.
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Wow!! I hope they lock the driver up the minute he gets out of the hospital.
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Impressive. One of the reasons Tesla's are rated the safest cars is because their restraint system is unique. Im not sure how it works but the airbags and seatbelts are partners. The airbag takes weight, height and even position in seat into consideration when firing the airbags.
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