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the powdercoat for the floorboards was $165. it's the ceramic/cerakote that's hurting the wallet at about $1400.
i put my Yamaha 950 in some bike shows early on because i was curious how it would be seen against other bikes. what i learned is that it does well against other amateurs but can't compete against actual bike shop bikes. so i enjoyed that experience but have no desire to do it anymore. still trying to decide how i'm going to divvy up my riding time between the 2 bikes, but this dark horse will definitely see the majority of riding time and be my #1 choice for highway travel.
 

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only thing left for me to paint at this point is a couple badges on the bike frame. since i found that polyurethane is going to be my protective coat on all these spray can parts, i'm wondering how many layers to use. all the parts so far have 3 layers of spray can lacquer and now have 3 layers of paint brushed water-based polyurethane. think this is enough? is there such thing as too much? what's the sweet spot?
 

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Two or three layers is normally the sweet spot. Additional layers, base or clear, will actually change the color slightly depending on color of item being painted.
 
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here's another development to throw a wrench in things: i just received my customer leather grips yesterday. i looked through the work of tons of different leather makers over the course of months and this guy was the clear favorite. we exchanged several emails as he states on his website he doesn't do phone calls because he wants to make sure the customer's wants are all listed in writing so there's no confusion/mistakes. he nailed the design, used the wrong piece of leather. i notified him about the mistake and pointed out the email where i very clearly stated which kind of leather to use and his only remedy he offered is to destroy them and show proof and he'll give me a refund as he doesn't "do the same design like that twice." i just shot off an email imploring him to reconsider an alternative. hopefully he'll re-do them since this is 100% his mistake...
 

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That's a bummer. Would love to see a photo, even if wrong. By him not wanting to redo them looks like they are difficult.
 

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well it's certainly not easy, but i think he's stretching the truth some when he says it took him 2 weeks. he charged $200 and he shot me off a sample which was one whole grip which equals half the total job in what he claims was 5 hours of work. maybe he's just upset about the whole situation so i'm giving him a few days to cool off. hopefully he sees how he messed up, that i have it in writing which i proved, and he needs to make it right. if not, well, there are other leather makers. i'll show photos of them once everything is done and you can see how they compare. the thing is, they looks great. but it's this one thing that is the opposite of what i asked for, and i was specific about it.
 

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Doesn't do phone calls? That is so odd.
Talk on the phone. Then you can exchange emails/pictures etc to make sure you both are on the same plane.

Ride smart. Ride often.
 

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Doesn't do phone calls? That is so odd.
Talk on the phone. Then you can exchange emails/pictures etc to make sure you both are on the same plane.

Ride smart. Ride often.
i agree with some of his reasoning that it's better to have things in writing so you can look back at exactly what was agreed upon. and in this case, it bit us both in the butt since he missed something. and this is the 5th person i've tried to do business with in regards to this bike that doesn't do phone calls. technology is supposed to make work so much quicker and more efficient, yet with all these people relying on back and forth emails that sometimes takes days to respond to, it's purposefully slowing things down and dragging them out unnecessarily.

update on paint:
i got my parts back from getting cerakote. when i saw them for the first time in the shop i was tired and a little out of it from my allergies and having not eaten or drank anything since the night before. but i was immediately disappointed. i asked for copper, i got brown. these people just took 2 months and $1400 and didn't give me what i wanted and this was the 2nd major disappointment in less than a week. i didn't say anything. i knew i wasn't quite right in the head and that the lighting in the shop may have just been throwing things off. i took the items home and didn't even look at them for 2 days until tonight when i was in a better mental state. still brown. the exhaust might actually look OK, but all the other parts are brown, not copper, and i definitely don't want to put them on my bike. i had also been contemplating over the weekend how to fix this and what kind of attitude i need to have going forward. part of me realized i may have been thinking like a whiny brat not getting his way and i didn't want to feel like that. this whole thing is supposed to be fun. i got a new toy and i'm getting to customize it how i want and shouldn't be upset every time i hit another obstacle. i guess i have just been feeling stressed after numerous setbacks and how this whole thing just keeps getting more and more stretched out. but now i'm thinking more clearly and realized that i can get most of these parts powdercoated by the guys that did my floorboards and get the color i actually want for just a fraction of the price the cerakote people charged me. so a relatively easy and better option. and while i'm waiting for these parts to get repainted i can get the tank pinstriped at the same time, hopefully. so everything is getting pushed back again. hopefully by March?
 

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When dealing with customizing there's often the expectations and then reality. Unfortunately it seems you were in uncharted waters and reality wasn't a sunny beach. Sounds like you have a fix in mind that you will like the outcome. It's a shame it's taking so long but knowing you the finished product is going to be worth the wait.
 
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That really sucks Bevo. I get not wanting to put them on not looking right but after spending so much it would really hurt to have to strip it off and have them powder coated. I hope everything goes smooth from here on.
 

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well the price for powdercoat is much cheaper than the custom cerakote. so if i end up with getting parts that look good, it will be worth it. i made the mistake with the cerakote shop of not telling them to give me final approval on their custom color before they painted everything. i assumed they knew what copper looked like, even after the copper objects i showed them in person and whatnot. and the main expenses of the cerakote was the exhaust pieces which i think will look OK. if not, then i'm sending them to Jet Hot that quoted me $300 last year. at least i know their copper actually looks like copper even if it's not quite the shade i'd like.

when i started this thing i had high expectations because there are so many great looking and custom renditions of vehicles and paint that it really seems like one's imagination is the limit. i really thought this would be as simple as telling a shop what i wanted and throwing money at it. but everything i've wanted has had numerous obstacles and compromises have been needed at nearly every step. but i'm mostly over the hump now and i can see the light at the end of the tunnel. i'll update some photos of my BROWN parts later tonight next to some COPPER ones.
 

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not sure if flash or no flash shows the contrast better. i put my brown cerakote parts next to my copper spray painted and powdercoated parts including a solid copper round coin.
just dropped parts off at powdercoat today and he's going to do one test piece to see how it comes out. if it doesn't look any better, then i'm just going to paint over these myself.

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still working on what solution i want for those badges, but i think i've decided what to do with my tank. originally, i wasn't going to do anything for now. but then as the weeks dragged on i figured might as well do something now rather than later while the bike is just sitting there. another thing that turned out to be more of a challenge than I had anticipated. i narrowed down to basically having someone do pinstriping on it when it suddenly hit me - copper leafing. it's gold leafing, but with copper. don't know why i didn't think of this sooner. so i'm going down that road with it while the powdercoat guy takes forever to even send me a sample of how he's going to correct all those ceramic coated bolts i gave him. in the meantime, here's a peak-a-boo look at something i think did come out right...




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That looks cool. You've got some great ideas going. Keep sending us samples of your ideas.
 
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UPDATE:
tank: finally decided what to do with my tank. originally, i just wanted to fill in the black "Indian" with copper color. after i settled on an artist, the winter storm we had last month wiped out her business for a bit so i had to look for yet another artist. she recommended a guy who now has my tank and who i probably should have gone to in the first place, but it's difficult to find specialists in your location for the things i'm doing because not everyone just shows up together on the same page of the Yellow Pages like they used in the phonebook. i decided i want the "Indian" not just in copper, but copperleaf. the same as goldleaf, but copper. and he's going to airbrush the headdress logo to give it more pop and style.

bolts: i visited the powdercoat guy that's had all my bolts and air intake parts for the past 2 weeks as we had been trying to figure out how to powdercoat the rest of this stuff, but it doesn't look possible to get the copper shade that will look good. a little disappointed, in a project that has been fraught with disappointments and compromises, but i decided to have him ceramic coat all that stuff instead since cerakote specifically makes a copper color that isn't heat resistant like i needed the exhaust shields for that necessitated a custom job. and he says it can be done in a week which will blow my mind if that happens because everything he's done has taken longer than quoted.

grips: i got a Texas leathersmith working on those, but he told me that he would have to see if he could do them by making some kind of sample first. he wouldn't even quote me a price yet until he figured how it would be done. he said he'd have something ready for me in a week. this was a month ago. siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh. going to look for someone else if he doesn't get his butt in gear, but at least the grips are not a necessity to get my bike running.

so hopefully i can get my tank and bolts and stuff back in the next week or 2. in the meantime, here's a teaser of one of my floorboards and a comparison shot of how they looked like before:


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It's going to really pop when you get it done. I would have never thought you would have that much trouble.
 

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FINALLY got my bolts back. will start putting everything back together over the next several days and as soon as my tank is done i can actually ride the thing. there's still a few minor things that will probably still take a few more weeks to iron out, but i should be riding before the end of the month.


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That's really going to be cool looking. Nice touch.
 
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here's the part of my air intake that is now coated in cerakote h-347 copper. i tried to match as close to the 'before' pics as possible when it was the custom copper/brown color, but lighting is difficult and i'm no photographer. and a picture doesn't match up quite the same as in real life. the before coating also had a gloss on it. there's not a huge difference in the colors, but a little is a lot.


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