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I am installing the risers tonight but cannot get enough cable.

I have heard you can open up the headlight to free up some cable slack but it also appears the brake line needs a little extra room.

I understand you can re-route the brake line somehow to gain a little room, anyone got some info on this.

Any help would be appreciated.
 

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Hey Sportsman,

I did this about three weeks ago and found that if I pulled on the wiring it came out from behind the headlight. I had to take off the cover that goes around the key, its just a rubber boot thing and pulls right off. I found plenty of wiring to pull from there.
As for the brake line, I took it out of the cable routing wire and just let it run up next to the windshield. So far so good, it is tight and I will buy one that is a little longer down the road but it will work for now.

I put the Baron risers on mine and it made a WORLD of difference!

If you need anything just let me know, hope this helps.

Mental:cool:
 

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Man, this was a pain in the ass.

I pulled the headlight and gained some wire there easily but the brake hose was a bit tight.

I pulled a string along the brake line for a length to work with and tried running it behind the tree, that was a longer distance because the bulky trees on the strat.

I was able to get it all worked out..but it wasnt easy.

The LA Chopper risers have a 1/2 x 13 thread. The factory hole in the trees is 10mm, a bit smaller. No way to get a 1/2 inch bolt (13mm) through there.

So taking advise from a guy on youtube, I used EZ locks, kind of like a helicoil but solid. The problem was the outside of the EZ lock was 1/2 x13 but the threads were not fully cut in order to make the thing tight. Luckly it comes with 10 in a pack because I destroyed 6 trying to cut the threads fully. The inside is 3/8 (9.5mm) with a 16 pitch thread. So I ran the ez lok onto a bolt and jammed it with a nut. Oiled it and ran a 1/2x13 die down it to cut the threads to full depth. It was not as simple as I just made it sound.

Once I had 2, I used lock tight and ran the EZ lok into the risers. I hung my bars with ratchet straps from the garage door opener so it wouldnt bang into the tank. Mounted the lower riser to the trees and set the bars. I had to clamp the bars semi-snug, then remove the risers with the bar so I can tighten the clamp bolts around the bar (the clamp bolts are hidden on the underside)...then set the risers back onto the trees and bolt them down from the under side.

Now its perfect, looks awesome and has a perfect height for my tall ape like body.

New problem. The top of the trees where he bolts pass through has a raised section so the risers are not sitting flush onto the trees, only in a small embossed area around the hole in the tree. This is allowing the risers to rock slightly. Not loose, but if I pull/push I can see them move.

So now I have to pull the risers off and find a large washer to sit on the trees and make the raised embossed area flush for the base of the riser to come in full contact with metal. That will solve he rocking/play....

I will post up some pics soon of all my recent junk ive added.

Thanks for the input folks.
 

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I went with the Barons after reading so many reviews on them. I will have to use the string trick to make sure when I order new brake lines that I get a correct measurement.
Not sure of the rocking action as mine are on there tight, I did have to use the dremel to open up one of the bottoms on the new risers to slide down onto my triple tree all the way but I could tell that was an anomaly.
So far with the mirror extensions and the riser I am feeling pretty good on the machine. I am now looking into a headlight modulator so if anyone has any suggestions I am all ears.
I am also looking into a cycle lift as I am not as young or spry as some on here and have had far to many surgeries to be crawling around on my garage floor, any help here also would be appreciated.
Keep us informed Phil.

Mental
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Wow, quite a bit of work there :). Good to hear you managed in the end.

I too went with the Barons - I didn't want any fuss :).

What a lot of people do when adding risers other than the Rivco and Barons especially made for the Strat/Roadliner, is open up the holes in the trees a little. This will prevent one from remounting the original clamps, however.

The brake line needs to be taken out of the guide indeed for the placement of (relatively low) risers if the line is not extended - it now runs behind the shield in my case too. I plan on replacing the lines at some stage in any case. Need to decide first whether I want a different handlebar or not, as it is quite wide - riding faster than 85 mph or thereabouts is almost impossible without a shield with these wide bars, for me anyway :). So far, I am happy, but I haven't done more than 200 miles in a single day yet :).

@Mental: what do you plan to achieve with a headlight modulator? If it is for better visibility, as in, being seen by others, wouldn't it be better to have more intense lighting instead, like halogen lights or so?
What I have seen in the past is some fluorescent purplish light as well, and that was extremely visible :). It has the effect of a kind of afterglow on one's retina, so it is impossible to miss. I have only seen this once, however, on some super sport bike.

Kind regards, Wim
 

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I could have saved a bunch of work by using the Barons but all of the risers for our bike have additional pull back and I need less pull back with my long monkey arms.

Tonight I pulled the bars to see the tops of the trees. The LA Chopper risers are HUGE bulky things. The base is as big as a silver dollar but it sits on a smaller bump in the trees that measures .7 across.

Add that to the fact I have a 3/8's bolt instead of a 10mm, its allowing a slight bit of movement. This might be good for felt vibration and I may actually leave them this way.

Companies make a cone kit to tighten up tall risers but it wont work for this application.

Truth be told, it may have been easier to have drilled the tree to 1/2 inch, then it would work with any riser on the market.

If I choose to fight the play I will find a large washer with a .7 hole and .20 thick to stack around the raised section of the tree and that will give a full size, solid base for the risers to sit on. I will go ahead to automotive fasteners and get a pair in case I tighten it up.

I will go make a video and link it in a few minutes.
 

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If one of you comments on my trashed garage..I will hunt you down and egg your house.

Lots of projects going on and no time to clean up...but here is my video link

If you click the little icon in the bottom right of the video it will go full screen for you. Also, check the volume on the bottom, it starts to play with low volume for some reason.

 

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Wimg,

I have been talking to some of the other riders and have been told that they, like me, are getting the same deer in the headlight looks until we flash them with the lights. They have been using the modulators. I am certainly open to any and all suggestion pertaining to lighting and am going to put some on the bike as well, I guess they are called running lights? If you have some specific suggestions I am all ears.
Thanks for the interest and conversation.

Sportsman,

First off my garage is way, way, way more cluttered as it still has not been cleared out since our remodel!!!
Since you're obviously taller than me and others here I can understand why you went with the risers you did. The Barons have worked out great for me and I would recommend them to anyone 6' or under. They have really made a difference in my shoulders and lower back (3 surgeries).
After seeing your video, (which was great) it looked like you had some sort of chrome piece on the triple tree! Like a plate that mine does not have, or is this one of the differences between the year of manufacture?
Can you tell me which engine ( I won't call them crash bars :) )guard you installed?
This is one of the options I will put on when I get back from my fishing trip!
Thanks for the conversation and info.

Mental
 

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Wimg,

I have been talking to some of the other riders and have been told that they, like me, are getting the same deer in the headlight looks until we flash them with the lights. They have been using the modulators. I am certainly open to any and all suggestion pertaining to lighting and am going to put some on the bike as well, I guess they are called running lights? If you have some specific suggestions I am all ears.
Thanks for the interest and conversation.

Sportsman,

First off my garage is way, way, way more cluttered as it still has not been cleared out since our remodel!!!
Since you're obviously taller than me and others here I can understand why you went with the risers you did. The Barons have worked out great for me and I would recommend them to anyone 6' or under. They have really made a difference in my shoulders and lower back (3 surgeries).
After seeing your video, (which was great) it looked like you had some sort of chrome piece on the triple tree! Like a plate that mine does not have, or is this one of the differences between the year of manufacture?
Can you tell me which engine ( I won't call them crash bars :) )guard you installed?
This is one of the options I will put on when I get back from my fishing trip!
Thanks for the conversation and info.

Mental


That chrome plate/cover over the tree is a factory trim piece for the Strats. As far as I knew, it came on all strats and rodies.

The engine bars are the Yamaha brand accessory engine bar. I think its called the Yamaha Big Bar.

My peg pins will be here Monday according to the tracking. The pegs will be on 10 minutes later...haha.
 

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Phil,

First of all, thank you for the video!

One remark from my side: please do yourself a favour and mount those risers in such a way that there is no movement in them at all. It worries me, because I know one person myself (not me, a friend of mine) who ended up breaking of risers and handlebars, because there was play in them. This, when doing an emergency stop. Fortunately he was not going very fast, so personal damage was small.

Kind regards, Wim
 

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@Mental:

As Phil said, those are the Star/Yamaha engine bars.
There are also Baron Fat Bars, and Lindy bars which will fit. The Baron ones where the ones I wanted to mount at first, until I found out that these bars will hit the ground before the floor boards do when cornering sharply :).

As I don't like sharp edges in places where you could hurt yourself or someone else, I decided not to go with the Lindy bars, even though they look great too.

Having said that, with their interesting curves, I do think the OEM ones actually look best, and those are the ones I have mounted too :).

You may also want to look at the bag protection bars - maybe you too, Phil - those look great too, and give extra protection for a passenger as well :).

Kind regards, Wim
 

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Phil,

First of all, thank you for the video!

One remark from my side: please do yourself a favour and mount those risers in such a way that there is no movement in them at all. It worries me, because I know one person myself (not me, a friend of mine) who ended up breaking of risers and handlebars, because there was play in them. This, when doing an emergency stop. Fortunately he was not going very fast, so personal damage was small.

Kind regards, Wim
Yea Im going to look into it. They are not under a lot of stress so I do not feel its a huge issue. The cone kits fix this on standard trees but our trees are not standard. I took my measurements and will find a piece of brass or steel to shim/fill the open space where the riser meets the tree.

In a perfect world I would pull the tree, put the upper in a drill press and cut it to .5 inch and mill the raised section off...

When I find the shim and pull the risers, I will take some video or pics.
 

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Wimg. thanks for posting your concerns for Phils potential problem and that you have personal knowledge of someone else having trouble in that area, I was a little skeptical about his bars also. I will look into the saddle bag bars also and have seen some that go all the way back around them also, so there are some choices there.

Phil, I am glad Wimg brought it up about your risers and bars having some give, that would scare the crap out of me. Sounds to me like you work with or have a pretty good knowledge of metal and have a fix in mind. Please know we just want you and everyone else to be safe.
Let us know how it goes with any further installation.
I guess I was thinking of my wife's shadow when I asked you about the triple tree cover, sometimes I wonder about myself.......

That's why I'm,

Mental :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Yea Im going to look into it. They are not under a lot of stress so I do not feel its a huge issue. The cone kits fix this on standard trees but our trees are not standard. I took my measurements and will find a piece of brass or steel to shim/fill the open space where the riser meets the tree.

In a perfect world I would pull the tree, put the upper in a drill press and cut it to .5 inch and mill the raised section off...

When I find the shim and pull the risers, I will take some video or pics.
The stresses on the riser bolts are very high under hard braking, especially in an emergency brake, when one in general holds on for life as well. It does get a lot of leverage, from the weight pushing at the handlebars, and a lot of g's as well, due to the braking

Please be careful ....

Kindest regards, Wim
 

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Wimg. thanks for posting your concerns for Phils potential problem and that you have personal knowledge of someone else having trouble in that area, I was a little skeptical about his bars also. I will look into the saddle bag bars also and have seen some that go all the way back around them also, so there are some choices there.
The OEM bars are really good, they do work well, from what I have heard. Of course if you don't mind scraping the bars occasionally, you could always go for these:
http://www.cobrausa.com/yamaha/stratoliner_06_14/motorcycle_accessories/freeway_bars_case_guards/
(I realize I said Baron's, but I meant these Cobra ones).
Extremely sturdy.

Baron also does some, these ones: http://www.baronscustom.com/catalog/display/1303/index.html
but apparently they aren't very easy to mount, and may require adaptation in order to do so.

There is also Lindby:
http://lindbycustom.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=91
or in black, a simpler one:
http://lindbycustom.com/cart/index.php?route=product/product&manufacturer_id=11&product_id=177&page=2
BTW, Raider bars should also fit without a problem.

And then the Yamaha/Star ones:
https://www.yamahapartsandaccessories.com/product/details/star-chrome-big-bar-engine-guards?b=Star+Motorcycle&d=12|12&f=2009|63
Of course the photograph doesn't show the very nice curvature (but then, Phil's video does :)).

The bag protector bars are these ones:
https://www.yamahapartsandaccessories.com/product/details/stratoliner-sidebag-guards?b=Star+Motorcycle&d=12|12&f=2009|63
and the rails you are talking about require the fitment of the above as well, it is an additional option:
https://www.yamahapartsandaccessories.com/product/details/stratoliner-sidebag-trim-rails?b=Star+Motorcycle&d=12|12&f=2009|63

I do like these a lot, but the price over here was a bit on the high side (330 euros for the pair), and with all the other stuff I got, I thought I could do without for now ....
https://www.yamahapartsandaccessories.com/accessories/Star-Motorcycle?ls=Star&dealernumber=&fitment=2009|63

Phil, I am glad Wimg brought it up about your risers and bars having some give, that would scare the crap out of me. Sounds to me like you work with or have a pretty good knowledge of metal and have a fix in mind. Please know we just want you and everyone else to be safe.
Let us know how it goes with any further installation.
I guess I was thinking of my wife's shadow when I asked you about the triple tree cover, sometimes I wonder about myself.......

That's why I'm,

Mental :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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:D

BTW, more cool stuff for the Strat/Roadliner:
https://www.yamahapartsandaccessories.com/accessories/Star-Motorcycle?fitment=2009|63&taxo_productdepartment_ss_facet=12&dealernumber=

Kind regards, Wim
 

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Wimg, great info and links.
I will probably go with the Star bars as I would like them to bolt right on without all the headaches and be fully functional.

As to the bars around the bags I was at a loss because I did not realize that you had to put the front protectors on and they were part of the whole protector. Meaning that the saddle bag protectors that you have are only part of the whold bag protectors and I could see how they go together in your pictures, i thought they were completely separate units!

I too will eventually go with the braided lines but want to make absolutely sure that there will be some more line to make up for the Barons risers.Of course this means I will have to get the chromed zip ties too.
Boats or bikes, its always something to throw money at.

Mental

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It is only a pleasure, Mental :).

And yes, amazing how much money you can throw at these "hobbies" :).

P.S.: I do like those chromed ties :).

Kind regards, Wim
 
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