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i had to guess the heavy side of a tire i was mounting and boy did i get it wrong. the wheel weight count got all way to 2.5 ounces on that try, spun the tire by 1/4 and got it to 1 3/4 ounces another 1/4 turn bingo 1/2 ounce worth of weight and it was balanced, of all the luck to mount it the first time and end up 180 off
 

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who makes tires without the yellow dot?!
 

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Alot of tires out there without the dots. If it doesn't have ne of the color dots i usually start with the DOT number 180 from the valve stem.
 

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The Avon Cobras I mounted on my 650 in Autumn didn't have the dot. My first attempt at balancing showed that I had pauli466's level of luck. I decided just for S&G to go ahead and balance the wheel just to see how 'off' it was. Luckily I cast my own bullets so I have lead bars lying around and it took a huge ~5 oz chunk of lead to offset the really heavy part of the wheel.
 

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the avon tire was off by 5 ounces?! the valve stem cant weigh more than half an ounce

I dont think I would buy another avon tire if they sell crap like that!
 

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the avon tire was off by 5 ounces?! the valve stem cant weigh more than half an ounce

I dont think I would buy another avon tire if they sell crap like that!
After going tubeless (yes tubes affect balance as well) and balancing just the rim with spoke weights and then remounting the tire it took a minimum of stick on weights to balance out so the tire is actually pretty good. You shouldn't jump to conclusions.
 

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I forgot, you did that tube-less glue thing on your spoke wheels...
 

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Oh yeah, well...
 

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i bought a commander 2 with under 2,000 on it made in 2016 for 35.00 that didn't have the indicator, the trick is don't air the tire until you do a rough check on the balance then if you need to spin it on the rim you can do it, airing it up only makes a very small change in balance, i'll just tape weights in place to see where i'm at before i pull the backing and stick them, maybe on an alloy rim the valve stem might be the heavy side but with steel tube type rims that's almost never the case, with just a tube on my rim the heavy part landed almost 45 degrees from the stem, thats where i put a little punch mark and when i have a tire with indicator on it, i'll mount that indicator dot 180 from that punch mark for a starting point, oh and one more tip use powder on the tube if you you plan to spin the tire
 
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