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HeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!

Break out the 'frizzle'....take a big GULP! Sit back, and read on....****GREAT NEWS**** and remember who broke it first, lol....****MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HANUKA****!!!!!

...and now...(drum roll...) the REST of the story...:

From my dealer conversation with the owner, just minutes ago...I just hung up!----------->

There will ***BE*** a 2019 (and ***beyond***) Yamaha SVTC/Eluder model

They (Yamaha Corp) have acknowledged that the one main criticism of the 2018 production bike (in features, was the LAME GPS/Navigation system, notably the software/features set that drives it. There is a MAJOR software update that is going to be released for the '18, and will come resident on the 2019. That is one thing.

Secondly, they are aware of the fact that some owners have experienced a cam lobe/follower burnishing and burning failure, due to choice of oils the owner has decided to put in, and they are investigating that, (my dealer said, as was said to him in the meeting/update phone call) that there is going to be a Yamaha response to it...and most likely a roller-bearing solution, (this is not confirmed, but what is confirmed is that Yamaha is responding to this) that if that is so, on the 2019's, will be addressed free of charge to the owners of 2018's as a general re-call. It is not a fatal mechanical flaw...not everybody has experienced from the first mile ridden, such as I and my wife has not experienced this...(did use Yamaha full syn 15W50 with ester, after swapping out the break in 10W40) but...they have delayed the 2019 for this reason..(testing) as well as the MAJOR upgrade/update for software, which he was told, is why there was no model announcement for the 2019 year ***TO DATE***.

He was told a few days ago, at his Yamaha Dealer interaction.

This is their Flag Ship model...and they absolutely are in it for the long haul.... He also said, that like you, Joe...not one of the owners (he sold four as a total for 2018) has come back with any critical comment, or buyer's remorse...only that the Navigation System (software) was weak, and could be much better. Nobody has criticized the ride, comfort, other features, and as you, the bike would have to be pulled basically, from their cold, dead, hands....so..Yamaha knows from TRUE OWNER feedback, that they built a Grand Touring ****WINNER***! Folks...your 2018 SVTC/ELUDER just went up in value, let alone any financial loss, due to 'the one year wonder' syndrome. That...is no longer, in play...( :) )...for there WILL be an upward pressure (Hooray!) on the MSRP, due to inflation and escalating, yearly production costs....YIPPEE...let them go up $3,000 to $5,000 'big ones' in the next few model years, for all I care...for WE HAVE ONE....lol...and....and...no new features....(the bike already has everything you could want...!) just was told, colors...but, was not told what the colors, (two) will be. I can't pass that on....I don't know...

Finally one more thing....you MUST (as we basically all did, at the get-go) and knowing now that the model is $$$$ and they don't want dealers sitting with stock for weeks (into months) or such...and that buyers later...can 'play the stock'...to negotiate a steal'er price...you can only get one, from here on out...on a one-on-one PRE-ORDER...in other words...to the buyer...either sh**, or get off the pot....put your money down...like we did...and you will be put into the delivery cue. This is going to protect and reassure Yamaha Dealers, that won't see a fair-cost of business, profit-margin flush down the toilet from 2019, on. ***VERY SMART, move by Yamaha Corp.**** That cuts off all the lay-back-and wait for 'left' over stock next season. What has this done for our 2018 investment...Yamaha has just protected us, as well...our bikes have just had a built in residual retainment as each year, the MSRP climbs in inflation and production cost pressures....Man...this is a very clever move by Yamaha...as they DID learn from their mistakes for the 2018 release....too many bikes were sitting on the showroom floors, as they did not know how well, this $$$$-expensive top tier bike was going to move....but they learned..and we 2018 investors/owners...have now been protected as well...

Trade in or private sale time? NO PROBLEM.....your 2018 SVTC/Eluder '18, is going to be sought after, by other's watching the MSRP climb 4.5% each following model year.....just like the prior Wing market...no......PROBLEM! I am ecstatic, this afternoon....!!!! I hope all we legitimate owners...after reading this post...are as well...****MERRY CHRISTMAS**** from Joe and his great relationship with his Yamaha Dealer...

"Ho...ho...and HOOOOOOOOO!"

Santa Joe...:)
 

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HeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!

Break out the 'frizzle'....take a big GULP! Sit back, and read on....****GREAT NEWS**** and remember who broke it first, lol....****MERRY EARLY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HANUKA****!!!!!

...and now...(drum roll...) the REST of the story...:

From my dealer conversation with the owner, just minutes ago...I just hung up!----------->

There will ***BE*** a 2019 (and ***beyond***) Yamaha SVTC/Eluder model

They (Yamaha Corp) have acknowledged that the one main criticism of the 2018 production bike (in features, was the LAME GPS/Navigation system, notably the software/features set that drives it. There is a MAJOR software update that is going to be released for the '18, and will come resident on the 2019. That is one thing.

Secondly, they are aware of the fact that some owners have experienced a cam lobe/follower burnishing and burning failure, due to choice of oils the owner has decided to put in, and they are investigating that, (my dealer said, as was said to him in the meeting/update phone call) that there is going to be a Yamaha response to it...and most likely a roller-bearing solution, (this is not confirmed, but what is confirmed is that Yamaha is responding to this) that if that is so, on the 2019's, will be addressed free of charge to the owners of 2018's as a general re-call. It is not a fatal mechanical flaw...not everybody has experienced from the first mile ridden, such as I and my wife has not experienced this...(did use Yamaha full syn 15W50 with ester, after swapping out the break in 10W40) but...they have delayed the 2019 for this reason..(testing) as well as the MAJOR upgrade/update for software, which he was told, is why there was no model announcement for the 2019 year ***TO DATE***.

He was told a few days ago, at his Yamaha Dealer interaction.

This is their Flag Ship model...and they absolutely are in it for the long haul.... He also said, that like you, Joe...not one of the owners (he sold four as a total for 2018) has come back with any critical comment, or buyer's remorse...only that the Navigation System (software) was weak, and could be much better. Nobody has criticized the ride, comfort, other features, and as you, the bike would have to be pulled basically, from their cold, dead, hands....so..Yamaha knows from TRUE OWNER feedback, that they built a Grand Touring ****WINNER***! Folks...your 2018 SVTC/ELUDER just went up in value, let alone any financial loss, due to 'the one year wonder' syndrome. That...is no longer, in play...( /forums/images/smilies/smile.gif )...for there WILL be an upward pressure (Hooray!) on the MSRP, due to inflation and production costs....YIPPEE...let them go up $3,000 to 5,000 $$$$ for all I care...for WE HAVE ONE....lol...and....and...no new features....(the bike already has everything you could want...!) just was told, colors...but, was not told what the colors, two will be. I can't pass that on....I don't know...

Finally one more thing....you MUST (as we basically all did, at the get-go) and knowing now that the model is $$$$ and they don't want dealers sitting with stock for weeks (into months) or such...and that buyers later...can 'play the stock'...to negotiate a steal'er price...you can only get one, from here on out...on a one-on-one PRE-ORDER...in other words...to the buyer...either sh**, or get off the pot....put your money down...like we did...and you will be put into the delivery cue. This is going to protect and reassure Yamaha Dealers, that won't see a fair-cost of business, profit-margin flush down the toilet from 2019, on. ***VERY SMART, move by Yamaha Corp.**** That cuts off all the lay-back-and wait for 'left' over stock next season. What has this done for our 2018 investment...Yamaha has just protected us, as well...our bikes have just had a built in residual retainment as each year, the MSRP climbs in inflation and production cost pressures....Man...this is a very clever move by Yamaha...as they DID learn from their mistakes for the 2018 release....too many bikes were sitting on the showroom floors, as they did not know how well, this $$$$-expensive top tier bike was going to move....but they learned..and we 2018 investors/owners...have now been protected as well...

Trade in or private sale time? NO PROBLEM.....your 2018 SVTC/Eluder '18, is going to be sought after, by other's watching the MSRP climb 4.5% each following model year.....just like the prior Wing market...no......PROBLEM! I am ecstatic, this afternoon....!!!! I hope all we legitimate owners...after reading this post...are as well...****MERRY CHRISTMAS**** from Joe and his great relationship with his Yamaha Dealer...

"Ho...ho...and HOOOOOOOOO!"

Santa Joe.../forums/images/smilies/smile.gif
What that confirms to me Joe is that Yamaha listened when I (and other owners) called/wrote to address KKOWN issues. Particularly since most (except for the valves) could be addressed by software changes.
Also, if you remember I just got done describing what could be taking place and causing the delay... “motor testing after valve design changes”.... “parts manufacturing to cover recall plus new bike production”.... “software upgrades & testing”. Didn’t mean to be “prophetic” about it, but apparently I was spot on!

I believe the software update will give us MORE navigational way points (complained about).. Able to save addresses by NAME not number (complained about)... GPS will know WHERE you’re at (no entering country every time)... There WILL be separation between voice comms & C.B. when both are on (complained about)... Glitch’s causing system to “hang” resolved (complained about)... NAV will show street names REGARDLESS if destination is entered (complained about).
I am SOOO excited to finally be able to experience the FULL POTENTIAL INTENDED with this Grand Touring Machine!
Merry Christmas and THANK YOU Yamaha!
I’m glad to see that despite our momentary wavering on your commitment, YOU (Yamaha) did NOT waiver on your commitment to US your customers.
 

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What that confirms to me Joe is that Yamaha listened when I (and other owners) called/wrote to address KKOWN issues. Particularly since most (except for the valves) could be addressed by software changes.
Also, if you remember I just got done describing what could be taking place and causing the delay... “motor testing after valve design changes”.... “parts manufacturing to cover recall plus new bike production”.... “software upgrades & testing”. Didn’t mean to be “prophetic” about it, but apparently I was spot on!

I believe the software update will give us MORE navigational way points (complained about).. Able to save addresses by NAME not number (complained about)... GPS will know WHERE you’re at (no entering country every time)... There WILL be separation between voice comms & C.B. when both are on (complained about)... Glitch’s causing system to “hang” resolved (complained about)... NAV will show street names REGARDLESS if destination is entered (complained about).
I am SOOO excited to finally be able to experience the FULL POTENTIAL INTENDED with this Grand Touring Machine!
Merry Christmas and THANK YOU Yamaha!
I’m glad to see that despite our momentary wavering on your commitment, YOU (Yamaha) did NOT waiver on your commitment to US your customers.
I guess...lol, that by just your one comment, in over 80 views, ...nobody else much cares who actually owns an SVTC/Eluder, but we two...what a hoot!~

I also like the part that now will give reassurance to all Yamaha Dealers, in that no matter what the up-take speed of this bike is...into the future...it will be purchased only by pre-order, you plop down the green, you get. No more bikes sitting on showroom floors, 'waiting' for the buyer/owner. No more...folks playing the 'how low...will it go, game'. Yamaha is now protecting its flagship image, as well as those that have partaken of the model. They are now (very smart) going to live-time, stock manage their most expensive MSRP. This not only removes the 'as low as it will go' sale...but will maintain residual value for the brand. Very smart of Yamaha, and obviously they took away 'lessons learned' in the RTM year...as well as avoiding Dealers that will not wish to stock a few models in the showroom, but instead----> have sales 'just in time' after pre-order contract, and $$$ procured.......very smart...and very good for we 2018 owners. Very smart game play, now. This will protect Yamaha Dealers and bottom line, fair and reasonable profit, and SVTC/Eluder current owner's ,residual trade-in value!

You want to see one? Go to a demo ride, and ride it, go to a motorcycle show like Long Beach and view it, sit on it...talk to Sales Staff who are knowledgeable about the bike... Then...if you are a true prospective...and not a tire kicker, or 'as low as it can go' delay/hold-out buyer....you order one, at your dealer of choice...and 1 to 14 days later, it arrives from the Yamaha Warehouse. Way better marketing of a bike that comes with a $$$ price tag. You go, Yamaha....2018 end-of-season, Dealer Panic fire sales...and 'as low as it can go' sales seen in the RTM riding season (2018) are over, starting in the 2019 model year. I also bet, that as soon as most Dealers get updated, and the new marketing strategy for the SVTC/Eluder sinks in...those present 2018 stock 'fire/panic prices' from dealers...will evaporate, with most of those ads being taken down, and $3,000-$4,000 gets slapped back on the 'left over's' as some guys like to refer to them...especially if $1,000-$1,200.00 in inflation and cost to produce, gets tagged onto the 2019 MSRP model year!

Bottom line, Chief, 8 to 10 years from 2018, it will still be the sweet-spot to Trade In, and still get 50 percent of the purchase price back, as I got 65 percent back for my 2008 GL1800. We're back in the game...because of the smart way, Yamaha is now going to stock-handle, the Flag Ship... :) Lovin' it!

"Looking now, even more with anticipation, to our Tour of the Mountain States of the Northwest USA early next year,...that my wife and I now will ride once more, with Yamaha watching our '6'...:) YES!"

Joe
 

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What that confirms to me Joe is that Yamaha listened when I (and other owners) called/wrote to address KKOWN issues. Particularly since most (except for the valves) could be addressed by software changes.
Also, if you remember I just got done describing what could be taking place and causing the delay... “motor testing after valve design changes”.... “parts manufacturing to cover recall plus new bike production”.... “software upgrades & testing”. Didn’t mean to be “prophetic” about it, but apparently I was spot on!

I believe the software update will give us MORE navigational way points (complained about).. Able to save addresses by NAME not number (complained about)... GPS will know WHERE you’re at (no entering country every time)... There WILL be separation between voice comms & C.B. when both are on (complained about)... Glitch’s causing system to “hang” resolved (complained about)... NAV will show street names REGARDLESS if destination is entered (complained about).
I am SOOO excited to finally be able to experience the FULL POTENTIAL INTENDED with this Grand Touring Machine!
Merry Christmas and THANK YOU Yamaha!
I’m glad to see that despite our momentary wavering on your commitment, YOU (Yamaha) did NOT waiver on your commitment to US your customers.
I guess...lol, that by just your one comment, in over 80 views, ...nobody else much cares who actually owns an SVTC/Eluder, but we two...what a hoot!~

I also like the part that now will give reassurance to all Yamaha Dealers, in that no matter what the up-take speed of this bike is...into the future...it will be purchased only by pre-order, you plop down the green, you get. No more bikes sitting on showroom floors, 'waiting' for the buyer/owner. No more...folks playing the 'how low...will it go, game'. Yamaha is now protecting its flagship image, as well as those that have partaken of the model. They are now (very smart) going to live-time, stock manage their most expensive MSRP. This not only removes the 'as low as it will go' sale...but will maintain residual value for the brand. Very smart of Yamaha, and obviously they took away 'lessons learned' in the RTM year...as well as avoiding Dealers that will not wish to stock a few models in the showroom, but instead----> have sales 'just in time' after pre-order contract, and $$$ procured.......very smart...and very good for we 2018 owners. Very smart game play, now. This will protect Yamaha Dealers and bottom line, fair and reasonable profit, and SVTC/Eluder current owner's ,residual trade-in value!

You want to see one? Go to a demo ride, and ride it, go to a motorcycle show like Long Beach and view it, sit on it...talk to Sales Staff who are knowledgeable about the bike... Then...if you are a true prospective...and not a tire kicker, or 'as low as it can go' delay/hold-out buyer....you order one, at your dealer of choice...and 1 to 14 days later, it arrives from the Yamaha Warehouse. Way better marketing of a bike that comes with a $$$ price tag. You go, Yamaha....2018 end-of-season, Dealer Panic fire sales...and 'as low as it can go' sales seen in the RTM riding season (2018) are over, starting in the 2019 model year. I also bet, that as soon as most Dealers get updated, and the new marketing strategy for the SVTC/Eluder sinks in...those present 2018 stock 'fire/panic prices' from dealers...will evaporate, with most of those ads being taken down, and $3,000-$4,000 gets slapped back on the 'left over's' as some guys like to refer to them...especially if $1,000-$1,200.00 in inflation and cost to produce, gets tagged onto the 2019 MSRP model year!

Bottom line, Chief, 8 to 10 years from 2018, it will still be the sweet-spot to Trade In, and still get 50 percent of the purchase price back, as I got 65 percent back for my 2008 GL1800. We're back in the game...because of the smart way, Yamaha is now going to stock-handle, the Flag Ship... /forums/images/smilies/smile.gif Lovin' it!

"Looking now, even more with anticipation, to our Tour of the Mountain States of the Northwest USA early next year,...that my wife and I now will ride once more, with Yamaha watching our '6'.../forums/images/smilies/smile.gif YES!"

Joe
Yes Joe, like playing the margin in the market those who waited playing the ODDS just lost! Kudos to Yamaha on the shrewd correction to a disasterous first year release;. They really did a “market correction” here!
Like you, I’m looking forward even MORE to showcasing this Grand Touring machine on our coast to coast trip!
Somehow looking at Big Red in the garage she seems to shine a bit brighter and stand a bit prouder. 😁
Seems Yamaha KNEW they had a winner and took the cue from those high end exotic car makers who do not stock cars. This REALLY protects their value cuz you can’t just get them anywhere at some fire sale.
Yamaha, THANK YOU!

Lonestar, if you’re reading what’s going on, you better “JUMP” dude or your gonna be SOL.
 

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Yes Joe, like playing the margin in the market those who waited playing the ODDS just lost! Kudos to Yamaha on the shrewd correction to a disasterous first year release;. They really did a “market correction” here!
Like you, I’m looking forward even MORE to showcasing this Grand Touring machine on our coast to coast trip!
Somehow looking at Big Red in the garage she seems to shine a bit brighter and stand a bit prouder. 😁
Seems Yamaha KNEW they had a winner and took the cue from those high end exotic car makers who do not stock cars. This REALLY protects their value cuz you can’t just get them anywhere at some fire sale.
Yamaha, THANK YOU!

Lonestar, if you’re reading what’s going on, you better “JUMP” dude or your gonna be SOL.
Lonestar, if you’re reading what’s going on, you better “JUMP” dude or your gonna be SOL.<------------------------------------Yeah, Tony...that's my take as well, LOL! Yamaha Marketing has got this right going forward in 2019!...like anything truly in demand generated by restricted controlled release, THEY will now control the 'demand'....very smart! Charlotte is looking even more beautiful than even yesterday...what a gal! Can't wait to wake her up, next April!!!!!! Dee-Dee and I are going places.....

You said: Seems Yamaha KNEW they had a winner and took the cue from those high end exotic car makers who do not stock cars. This REALLY protects their value cuz you can’t just get them anywhere at some fire sale.

That..is so true now, Chief.... Diamonds are a controlled RTM. Gold, the same....Perfume, the same. Now...Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental's....THE SAME! I am dancin' on airwaves this morning....Go Yamaha Marketing Division! You screwed up, in '18, and pulled the iron outta the fire, in '19 onwards....the bike, needed no 'apologists'. What it needed---> was creative marketing, in a tough, tough declining market as seen today. You (Yamaha) thought this through...and adapted. Kudos...
 

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My ears were ringing and now I see why!!! This is excellent news Mr. Excellence,, congrats to you, Mr. Gunner, myself and EVERYONE interested in actually trancontinentally touring on a motorcycle!
You guys got me so excited here at work that I am hiding behind a file cabinet in a data processing room at work to respond here (cant be on long LOL) cause I just HAD to say congrats and THANK Mr. Excellence for getting the job done for us!! And a HUGE thanks to Yamaha for coming thru!! Also, I totally understand the whole JIT approach to inventory control (it's part of my job) and am with you two, Yamaha may have just saved the life line of the model!!
I checked my e-mail this morning and heard nothing yet myself Mr. Excellence so you DEFINITELY have Yamaha's ear!!!
Back to work to earn $$$'s..
 

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Yes Joe, like playing the margin in the market those who waited playing the ODDS just lost! Kudos to Yamaha on the shrewd correction to a disasterous first year release;. They really did a “market correction” here!
Like you, I’m looking forward even MORE to showcasing this Grand Touring machine on our coast to coast trip!
Somehow looking at Big Red in the garage she seems to shine a bit brighter and stand a bit prouder. 😁
Seems Yamaha KNEW they had a winner and took the cue from those high end exotic car makers who do not stock cars. This REALLY protects their value cuz you can’t just get them anywhere at some fire sale.
Yamaha, THANK YOU!

Lonestar, if you’re reading what’s going on, you better “JUMP” dude or your gonna be SOL.
Lonestar, if you’re reading what’s going on, you better “JUMP” dude or your gonna be SOL.<------------------------------------Yeah, Tony...that's my take as well, LOL! Yamaha Marketing has got this right going forward in 2019!...like anything truly in demand generated by restricted controlled release, THEY will now control the 'demand'....very smart! Charlotte is looking even more beautiful than even yesterday...what a gal! Can't wait to wake her up, next April!!!!!! Dee-Dee and I are going places.....

You said: Seems Yamaha KNEW they had a winner and took the cue from those high end exotic car makers who do not stock cars. This REALLY protects their value cuz you can’t just get them anywhere at some fire sale.

That..is so true now, Chief.... Diamonds are a controlled RTM. Gold, the same....Perfume, the same. Now...Yamaha Star Venture Transcontinental's....THE SAME! I am dancin' on airwaves this morning....Go Yamaha Marketing Division! You screwed up, in '18, and pulled the iron outta the fire, in '19 onwards....the bike, needed no 'apologists'. What it needed---> was creative marketing, in a tough, tough declining market as seen today. You (Yamaha) thought this through...and adapted. Kudos...
I don’t wanna throw water on your fire BUT, Big Red is going out this weekend! High of 60 on Saturday & 70 on Sunday! Woo Hoo!
 

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My ears were ringing and now I see why!!! This is excellent news Mr. Excellence,, congrats to you, Mr. Gunner, myself and EVERYONE interested in actually trancontinentally touring on a motorcycle!
You guys got me so excited here at work that I am hiding behind a file cabinet in a data processing room at work to respond here (cant be on long LOL) cause I just HAD to say congrats and THANK Mr. Excellence for getting the job done for us!! And a HUGE thanks to Yamaha for coming thru!! Also, I totally understand the whole JIT approach to inventory control (it's part of my job) and am with you two, Yamaha may have just saved the life line of the model!!
I checked my e-mail this morning and heard nothing yet myself Mr. Excellence so you DEFINITELY have Yamaha's ear!!!
Back to work to earn $$$'s..
Hey there, LoneStar...actually, while I had been in contact with Yamaha Canada myself, just like Chief did at his end at the USA site,....and who knows how many other's that we don't know about on 'their ends', but all this information, was given me in a 30 minute phone call with my dealer (the owner himself) and it has not been 'interpreted' by myself, or paraphrasing. Those were all the 'this is what I know to date, and has been told to me, regarding my own inquiries on yours, and other owner's behalf's...as well as what as dealers, we can expect from '19 and on. My dealer is excited by what he was told as I was, in fact. He knows this can become a bread 'n butter' bike....and as more of them are on the road...and as its rep out there becomes solid....there will be an escalation in up-take. It's an expensive bike, and that fact alone, can remove many from acquiring one. That alone, is a large filtering agent. For those that can afford this fabuous Grand Tour...removing excess stock, lingering stock on show room floors, and the downward sale price trend that stimulates, will stabilize prices, reassure those that do wish to own this beauty....that when they are ready to trade in, or divest of biking...they will be able to expect a reasonable re-claim of aquiring cost to own. Yamaha's new challenging market stock strategy, will assure this, for us, the buyer, and for the dealer network, to host the bike. All will win now...

I suggest that you and your wife, seriously 'chew the cud' this week...and if you can find still a 2018 fire-sale, stomp on it. I think in light of what I was told, by my dealer, and what he was told by his authoritative sources....that is good advice. The SVTC/Eluder now has a strong marketing strategy, that will make all players, winners in the months and years to come. I know that we are going to keep the bike for as long as we had the 2008 GL1800, which turned out to be 10 seasons of ownership. I now, fully expect (with the care I take of my rides...) to also now glean the same purchase retainment, that I enjoyed on the GL1800. There are now many "I wish I hadn't posts" of those that are dedicated touring couples...and had traded in, or sold their 2017 and earlier GL1800/GL1500 to purchase what really, is an ST-1800...and those parties, will be looking once more, for a full, luxury-fat....full size Grand Touring Motorcycle. They will come looking at a 2018 SVTC pre-owned, or a current new year model. With that...as well as the novel new marketing strategy by Yamaha '19 and beyond....an owner of any model year of the SVTC will come up, smelling like roses. LoneStar...I'd jump very, very soon, on an existing 2018 before the dealers see what's up...and pull those present sale ad's.
 

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I don’t wanna throw water on your fire BUT, Big Red is going out this weekend! High of 60 on Saturday & 70 on Sunday! Woo Hoo!

"...yeah, yeah...yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....don't look now...but I just threw a whompin' large, snowball at the gas tank....!!!!!! So there.....! ;)

Enjoy...one of the perks of living in North Carolina...for sure! Safe rides!
 

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Great news and thanks for passing it along! Hopefully the 2019s are available by February--I expect to be sh*tting at that point, and not getting off the pot, as you recommend above, Mr. Excellence. ;-) These bikes--especially the Eluder--would look great in white, IMO. Crossing my fingers on that color.

I was already starting to look at other brands, given the delay, and I'm very glad it looks like I'm going to get the opportunity to reward Yamaha with my loyalty after 10 awesome years of great performance and reliability from my XV1900. The SVTC/Eluder is going to have to be a great bike to live up to the 'liner. Looking forward to finding out for myself...
 

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Great news and thanks for passing it along! Hopefully the 2019s are available by February--I expect to be sh*tting at that point, and not getting off the pot, as you recommend above, Mr. Excellence. ;-) These bikes--especially the Eluder--would look great in white, IMO. Crossing my fingers on that color.

I was already starting to look at other brands, given the delay, and I'm very glad it looks like I'm going to get the opportunity to reward Yamaha with my loyalty after 10 awesome years of great performance and reliability from my XV1900. The SVTC/Eluder is going to have to be a great bike to live up to the 'liner. Looking forward to finding out for myself...
It won't be disappointing. It is a fabulous bike. My wife, who has been with me through all of the GoldWing years...and through 5 new model years of them, has never ridden so many miles, upon all of those, as she has ridden with me since the first week of last May. She rides horses, and loves the excitement and 'rush' of riding them. Well, she told me around late September, while we were heading up north towards Wawa Ontario to visit the 'Goose', that she now has fun being co-rider on the SVTC and feels "part of the bike, like you. I don't feel like I'm just sitting there". Wow...I had never heard her say that!!!

She's also lovin' the fact that she has (in her words, "FINALLY!!!") control of what SHE wants to listen to, whom SHE wants to call and chat with, via the complete control the co-rider has on the SVTC (only available upon the SVTC, an 'exclusive' feature) of all entertainment and communication features. That is one of the first things, she will tell another couple, leading the other co-rider to the rear of the bike and pointing to the right side, and the co-rider control(s) pod. She just LOVES that! :) I love, that she loves it....sort of like a Hippy/San Francisco LoveFest happening between her and the SVTC. LOL!

Our bike has proved a solid, most reliable duo-riding mount, so much so, that we only plan next how many thousand miles the next 'chunk' of Tour will be...and I don't even think about editing our route, due to the fact that there might not be a Yamaha dealership nearby, or mountainous terrain. With that whoppin' gas tank you have, with the engine being built like a tank...you fill the gas tank, you fill yourselves, you turn on the tunes...the Intercom, and move on out...

In 36,000 words or less, probably with me, never less, lol...you will enjoy and admire your purchase. Our bike is such a great, Grand Luxury Tour ride...that was part of my angst, in the thought that perhaps, Yamaha was cutting out, after only one year and modest sales metrics. They have come up with a brilliant 'to market' strategy, '19 and forward, and with J.I.T. (Just in Time) after $$$ laid down with the Dealer--delivery of the '19's, it now will be a measured RTM...that has been so successful in other genres and markets. They built up too much anticipation, last June, and then couldn't deliver on their own time-line. That hurt them. That hurt sales. They have learned. All is good now...and I can't wait for all the up and coming seasons with our '18. I wish you happy rides, and many thousands of miles on your SVTC and/or Eluder, when you decide to 'you know what'.....(Thumb's up!) BTW, I have a feeling, that one of the colors might be a pearl white, and the other yellow. Lots of Goldwinger's loved those colors...so why not entice them further, to have 'their' color on their new SVTC. I love red, my other ride is red, my 2008 GL1800 was red, so the two color choices for '18 played right into my 'wants'. :) We get many compliments over our SVTC, out upon Tour.

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I don’t wanna throw water on your fire BUT, Big Red is going out this weekend! High of 60 on Saturday & 70 on Sunday! Woo Hoo!

"...yeah, yeah...yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah....don't look now...but I just threw a whompin' large, snowball at the gas tank....!!!!!! So there.....! /forums/images/smilies/wink.gif

Enjoy...one of the perks of living in North Carolina...for sure! Safe rides!
I will brother... I WILL!
I was worried last year when I didn’t get delivery until Dec 29th. Fortunately we have a number of “rideable” days with temps well above 50. It may not be the 365 riding like I was used to in Southern California, but I’ll take what I can get.
 

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I will brother... I WILL!
I was worried last year when I didn’t get delivery until Dec 29th. Fortunately we have a number of “rideable” days with temps well above 50. It may not be the 365 riding like I was used to in Southern California, but I’ll take what I can get.
December 29!!!!!!! I'd had of wished LOLOLOLOL!!!!

We didn't get ours, until the first week in May! There were days, Chief around the G.T.A, and north, that in March, were in the 60's...and even a few days (weird), pushing high 70's! I was so frustrated that I could not take my new purchase out for her break-in runs. Thank goodness, I had my Kawa backup! That kept me sane...with the waiting. I've lived in California, in Arizona, and appreciate the fact that those two world locations, gave me year-round riding. Up here, in Ontario, Canada, I can usually, (there has to be no chance of salt dust on the roads...) get out for a first ride, in mid March, if there has been a couple of days of salt clearing rain showers, and usually pack the Season in, within the first month of November. So...all in all...still a good many months of riding. The only claw in the side, is that up here in Canada, (well, at least in Ontario), you have to carry 12 month insurance...you can't play the 6 month game, you're still paying as she sleeps, for 3rd Party Liability (fire, theft, and collateral damage, is always on)... It is....what it ....is....lol.

Enjoy all the miles, that a lot of us 'north of the Mason/Dixon line, can't avail ourselves of....

"Way down South, in the Land of Dixie, I've got a bike, whose' name is Trixie...ride away, ride away, ride away, through Dixie Land...." Dang...a string just broke off of my banjo, Chief...dang.....
 

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I will brother... I WILL!
I was worried last year when I didn’t get delivery until Dec 29th. Fortunately we have a number of “rideable” days with temps well above 50. It may not be the 365 riding like I was used to in Southern California, but I’ll take what I can get.
December 29!!!!!!! I'd had of wished LOLOLOLOL!!!!

We didn't get ours, until the first week in May! There were days, Chief around the G.T.A, and north, that in March, were in the 60's...and even a few days (weird), pushing high 70's! I was so frustrated that I could not take my new purchase out for her break-in runs. Thank goodness, I had my Kawa backup! That kept me sane...with the waiting. I've lived in California, in Arizona, and appreciate the fact that those two world locations, gave me year-round riding. Up here, in Ontario, Canada, I can usually, (there has to be no chance of salt dust on the roads...) get out for a first ride, in mid March, if there has been a couple of days of salt clearing rain showers, and usually pack the Season in, within the first month of November. So...all in all...still a good many months of riding. The only claw in the side, is that up here in Canada, (well, at least in Ontario), you have to carry 12 month insurance...you can't play the 6 month game, you're still paying as she sleeps, for 3rd Party Liability (fire, theft, and collateral damage, is always on)... It is....what it ....is....lol.

Enjoy all the miles, that a lot of us 'north of the Mason/Dixon line, can't avail ourselves of....

"Way down South, in the Land of Dixie, I've got a bike, whose' name is Trixie...ride away, ride away, ride away, through Dixie Land...." Dang...a string just broke off of my banjo, Chief...dang.....
Yes, December 29th. But I put my order and deposit in on July 17th!
 

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Thanks Chief! This post just made my day. the GPS and communication system is my biggest issue.
Love the ride and the power of the bike.
 

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I stopped at our local Yamaha dealership last night on the way home from work and inquired about all this Mr. Excellence. At this time, the word here in the States does not match what you lucky SVTC riders up in Canada are getting. Apparently, at least at a dealership level, no new word on the 2019 SVTC/Eluder line has been released to them (U.S. dealerships). I did mention to the Sales Manager I spoke with that the info about the bikes now being made to order (JIT) was definitely tied to the Canadian Market as my info came from a very reliable source. I also mentioned that I had heard that your market up there had sold out of the SVTC's very early on, the Manager responded with no knowledge of that as fact but, if that were so, that possibly Yamaha was going to approach the continuation of the line more aggressively for the Canadian market than the U.S. market just because your market is more supportive of the model (lots of dealerships here in the States are still sitting on inventory, this dealership included).
I have a business trip this weekend that takes me to NYC and noticed that the International Bike Show is happening there this weekend. There is a chance I may be able to make it to the show for an afternoon of fun. I mentioned this to our dealership and he suggested looking for the 2019 Canadian models there as the IMS in NYC is one of the bigger shows and, with all the other brands already having their 19's released, if any thing new is happening internationally with the SVTC line, it should be represented there as well.
If I get a chance to attend and find the 19's represented I will snap some shots and post them up here for all to view. If no bikes are present I will inquire about what in the wild world of touring bikes is going on and forward that info too..
Bottom line, it sounds like we Americans who want an updated version of the SVTC may just have to cross the border to get one as, at this time any way, as the U.S. dealerships won't even take a down payment on one as a pre-order like you suggest (ever heard of a motorcycle dealership not willing to take money?) LOL.
 

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Lonestar - my dealer's sales manager (US, NC) said he had no doubt that there would be 2019s. He was also certain they would be a very late release due to the flubbed/late debut of the 2018. He said his sales, while not what it sounds like in Canada, were exactly what he expected for such a high dollar, luxury tourer. Like you, I'm interested in what Yamaha is saying at these big shows. Didn't any forum members attend Long Beach and ask this question? Looking forward to what you hear.
 

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I stopped at our local Yamaha dealership last night on the way home from work and inquired about all this Mr. Excellence. At this time, the word here in the States does not match what you lucky SVTC riders up in Canada are getting. Apparently, at least at a dealership level, no new word on the 2019 SVTC/Eluder line has been released to them (U.S. dealerships). I did mention to the Sales Manager I spoke with that the info about the bikes now being made to order (JIT) was definitely tied to the Canadian Market as my info came from a very reliable source. I also mentioned that I had heard that your market up there had sold out of the SVTC's very early on, the Manager responded with no knowledge of that as fact but, if that were so, that possibly Yamaha was going to approach the continuation of the line more aggressively for the Canadian market than the U.S. market just because your market is more supportive of the model (lots of dealerships here in the States are still sitting on inventory, this dealership included).
I have a business trip this weekend that takes me to NYC and noticed that the International Bike Show is happening there this weekend. There is a chance I may be able to make it to the show for an afternoon of fun. I mentioned this to our dealership and he suggested looking for the 2019 Canadian models there as the IMS in NYC is one of the bigger shows and, with all the other brands already having their 19's released, if any thing new is happening internationally with the SVTC line, it should be represented there as well.
If I get a chance to attend and find the 19's represented I will snap some shots and post them up here for all to view. If no bikes are present I will inquire about what in the wild world of touring bikes is going on and forward that info too..
Bottom line, it sounds like we Americans who want an updated version of the SVTC may just have to cross the border to get one as, at this time any way, as the U.S. dealerships won't even take a down payment on one as a pre-order like you suggest (ever heard of a motorcycle dealership not willing to take money?) LOL.
When we were talking over the phone (the owner of the dealership), and I,--- it never came up that this was totally market wide, but he could have meant that. Just wanted to say though that he did not verbatim say, that 'yes...on all markets'. I can only imagine that Yamaha would be doing this North American Wide LoneStar,...for can you already hear the HOWLS coming from American riders, if the line only continued to the next model year, ONLY in Canada? I just can't see that...so I'm going to go with the fact that my dealer, DIDN'T mention a specific market like up here when laying out all the information he was given. Perhaps dealers are told at regional meetings, and that he, (your dealer) merely hasn't had what was in my post, delivered to his own ears, or eyes.

I suggest something...that you capture my entire OMG post and content, and send him (your dealer you have been speaking with) an email, that he many then send on to his contacts to confirm, or deny, what was relayed to me, up here in Ontario. I'd do that for sure! Let's see if Yamaha USA bites...and confirms...OR...as the military always says...'we can not confirm, or DENY what you have sent us. We will be giving an official announcement later on Blah, Blah date'. At least...he would know there WAS some kind of announcement coming down the pipes. Believe me...my dealer would not have gone into such different and specific modus operandi, unless he had heard it from someone that carries official weight. So...I'd suggest that...let your dealer post all that was stated to me, to his 'official channel'...throw mud on the wall, and see what sticks!

Post Edit: BTW, the ONLY difference between the two bikes, that being an American/Canadian SVTC are two things.

1. The predominate speed reading is in KM's. An American buyer might have to have MPH as the dominant speed reading (here I am talking through my hat though, and don't know that at all for a fact...just guessing) I know that we have to have the KM's as dominant up here in Ontario, if you buy an American vehicle that does not have KM's on the display. Does American SVTC's have KM's as the smaller secondary reading? We have both up here....KM's first, MPH, secondary.

2. We don't have that other radios service, so it is not activated on our software/bike for music. That's about it. Only SeriusXM is available to activate in Canada.

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Lonestar - my dealer's sales manager (US, NC) said he had no doubt that there would be 2019s. He was also certain they would be a very late release due to the flubbed/late debut of the 2018. He said his sales, while not what it sounds like in Canada, were exactly what he expected for such a high dollar, luxury tourer. Like you, I'm interested in what Yamaha is saying at these big shows. Didn't any forum members attend Long Beach and ask this question? Looking forward to what you hear.
There would be no reason to lie, or misrepresent to the forum here, on our sales as was told to me, and my own due diligence. My dealer was BEGGING Yamaha Canada for more SVTC stock. What did not sell well here, was the Eluder. Most of those that bought his (final count was four SVTC's with one a dealer demo/used trade) went with a breakdown like this.

Two 2018's to Honda GoldWing GL1800 riders. One of them was myself.
One 2018, to a Harley Davidson Electra Glide rider.
One 2018, to a second generation Venture rider.

All bikes but the Harley were traded into the dealership, whereby he sold one back to a Honda dealership. He sold mine to a very excited couple from Eastern Ontario! We met them! He flipped the second generation Venture. The Harley rider was a cash deal, after selling privately. When I wasn't sure that I was even going to get one...(that is another whole story worthy of its own thread!) I called around across Canada to source my own...and I couldn't find but two...(that was in mid April) that were way over in B.C. I had a man and wife even want to buy my bike right out from under me....for THEY could not find one locally at the time...and wanted to travel to Alaska in two weeks. I wrote a thread about that. So...they were rather scarce up here. I was amazed quite frankly at how many seemed not to be heading out the door in the States. I can only imagine, that with Harley resident, and the adversity to buy big-V-Twin 'metric'...played into that...as well as perhaps the local economies of each region across the States. Who knows? But Canada wide...the sales were respectful. Heck...in my conversation with my dealer about all the OMG! information...he stated in his own words, that he sees the SVTC becoming his 'bread n' butter' touring bike. Those were his own words and descriptive''s.
 

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Don't know if any of you follow Yamaha on facebook but Yamaha just posted this. It's the first time in a long time they have mentioned the SVTC.

 
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