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I have a 2004 Yamaha vstar 650 that I do enjoy yet looking to move up. Also, I will most likely keep the 650. First observation of this forum? I find it incredibly weird that this site has a more stringent password requirement than any of my banks, investment sites, or work login.
 

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I have the same bike, a 2005 classic 650

what bikes are you looking at for something bigger?

Ive had mine for 5 years, 30,000 miles. Im thinking Roadstar, Roadliner (love carb'ed bikes with pushrods!)

or maybe a VS 1300, or something just for the highway like an FJR-1300
 

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Hahaha, "rules say I have to post"... ah Darlage, you're such a requirements drama queen.

Fellow members, this is the old friend whose XVS650 I've mentioned before, the one he bought back in Autumn and is also the dude who roped me in to doing that Indian demo ride.
 

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Hahaha, "rules say I have to post"... ah Darlage, you're such a requirements drama queen.

Fellow members, this is the old friend whose XVS650 I've mentioned before, the one he bought back in Autumn and is also the dude who roped me in to doing that Indian demo ride.
lol, I am always dramatic. Also, I think I sent you a link to a video where I am unsure of my engine. It kinda now sounds like my MR2 did before that engine when poof!

Hello Everyone!

I am looking at the following bikes: Indian Scout and 60, Honda Phantom(most likely not though), Yamaha Bolt, Striker, 950, 1100,1300, Vulcan S, VULCAN 900 CUSTOM and Victory Octane.

I love the way the Scout looks yet for whatever reason I didnt enjoy the drive. I think that could be racked up to having a **** week up to that point, hating the guy leading the ride as he almost killed half of us in a span of 3 minutes, and having a job interview while at the dealership. There is another event near me at the end of July so I am going to give it a go again(more than welcome to come with Jens) and Yamaha has one I think they said in August or September. Just need to find out when Kawasaki has one and I should be able to have this all wrapped up.

Sadly,, right now i am kinda struggling in what I want as I basically just want a faster version of my 650 so if anyone has ridden any of the above i would love to hear how they specifically compared to the vstar in the below areas

1) Seating position
2) Accelaration to 60.
3) Highway driving from 60-80 specifically vibration and ability to accelarate.
4) How it handles twisties and flickability.

Any help would be greatly appreciated and I also threw in a pic of my dogs as they are awesome!
 

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Boomer is such the alpha... when it comes to cameras anyway.

I'll have to say when it comes to 'new' bikes I would go with the Scout Bobber. Right out of the box it has the feel and mannerisms I can appreciate. It's naked, has that raw no BS 'in the wind' feel I like and revs low at highways speeds so it'll do long hauls without feeling frenzied. That's my take based on limited experiences with the bikes you've mentioned. But then we're physically a little different.
 

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... Also, I think I sent you a link to a video where I am unsure of my engine. It kinda now sounds like my MR2 did before that engine when poof! ...
Dude, I didn't get the vid but that's not surprising since I turn off all data transfer... it's enough that I answer friggin text messages on a phone that in my day was used for actually talking to people... yeah voice and crap... no reading messages as though we were in the Victorian age sending each other letters. What's the next backward trend, sending Morse code via smart phones?
 

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Not sure how much help I can be as I've never ridden a 650, but I have an 1100 so I'll give you my impressions of that. Overall it's a great bike, but I would prefer a little more oomph for two up highway riding. Not that it can't handle it, I just want something that will lope along a little easier at speed with me, the wife, and a couple of days luggage (maybe just a personal thing). If you just ride solo, it works excellent around town or on the highway. It seems happiest between 50 - 65 on two lane roads.

So, as to your points:

1) Seating position is very good. I'm 5'9 and recently added a set of 4.5" risers, which improved it greatly. As you know from your 650, the stock seats themselves kinda suck, but otherwise I'm happy with it.
2)Acceleration to 60 is quick and solid. I usually shift into 5th around 55 and she pulls hard up to 70 - 75 if you want it.
3)On the highway she cruises easily at 75 and there's lots left in reserve. I've looked down while riding with some friends on Harleys and was surprised to see I was passing 90. It does get slightly buzzy over 80, but it's not that bad and I've grown used to it. ISO grips helped somewhat with that.
4)I'm not aggressive in the twisties, but I do like to lean into corners and have dragged the floorboards a time or two. It feels light and is easy to throw around if you want, but it isn't a sport bike so it does have its limits.

Hope that helps, and good luck with your search!
 

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cant answer all your questions, but if you want a bike that is more nimble keep in mind that cruiser bikes are intentionally raked on the fork to make the bike more stable, and are not intended for cornering like a racing bike (sports bike).

Not to say that a cruiser bike wont take corners fast, just that the bike will push back much harder when you are countersteering - its more work to get a cruiser to lean over. They tend to have heavier tires as well, which makes the cruiser bike feel more stable.

If you want faster acceleration at speed look up the HP and torque ratings for the bikes. There are some cruiser bikes with big engines (1600 and larger) that are only 60 to 80HP.
 

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cant answer all your questions, but if you want a bike that is more nimble keep in mind that cruiser bikes are intentionally raked on the fork to make the bike more stable, and are not intended for cornering like a racing bike (sports bike).

Not to say that a cruiser bike wont take corners fast, just that the bike will push back much harder when you are countersteering - its more work to get a cruiser to lean over. They tend to have heavier tires as well, which makes the cruiser bike feel more stable.

If you want faster acceleration at speed look up the HP and torque ratings for the bikes. There are some cruiser bikes with big engines (1600 and larger) that are only 60 to 80HP.
I did not realize that a 1600 could ever bee so low as a 60 hp. That's good to know and thanks!
 

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I did not realize that a 1600 could ever bee so low as a 60 hp. That's good to know and thanks!
The RoadStar 1600 may be only 62hp, but it's the 99ft/lbs of torque that will stretch your arms when you twist the throttle.
 

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HP = torque * RPM

if a bike has a lot of torque at 1500 rpm it will jump off the line quick in lower gears

but if you dont have HP at the higher RPMs it wont help you walk away from an 18 wheeler when you are going 75mph
 
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