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I'm pretty sure they changed them - I think on the 2004 models (someone correct me if I'm wrong). I believe they strengthened the bolts to prevent them twisting and putting strain on the starter clutch. I've watched YouTube videos about changing the starter clutch and there are upgraded kits available for that as well. Since the engines on our bikes remained virtually unchanged for the entire production run I can't see any reason why the upgraded starter wouldn't work on the older bikes.
 

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I believe it was the 03 model, but it was right there...03 or 04 either way. They did some work on the inside so that it could handle the kickback of the motor better with less risk of internal damage to the starter. I would have to do some more digging to get the tech specs. Trying to find one online is a pain because most sites list both part numbers or that it fits between all the year's and usually says "upgraded" or something like that. Which is true, 02 will fit an 08 and vice versa with both fitting and working 100%.

Is the body twisted? Or internals fried? Or just planning ahead? Starter spinning, but motor not engaging?

P/N 5EL-81890-01-00 - 03-09
P/N 5EL-81890-00-00 - 99-02
 

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Oh I am in the throws of changing out my starter clutch and thinking "Oh No, what if this doesn't solve the problem." I want to know where to get the starter motor if needs be. I am a bit frustrated with the motorcycle at the moment. First my Regulator/rectifier, two fried batteries, and now the starter clutch. It is a bit painful on the pocket book and trying to keep peace with the Mrs. :)
 

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FD, can you remind us what the symptoms of the bike are again? Is it not starting at all? Starter spinning, but not firing? Starter spinning, but motor not turning over? I remember you were concerned on the clunk on shut down. I haven't fired up the 1100 in a little while, but the Raider has a clunk noise. Think these are just inherent motorcycle things. Probably car also, but the motor of them is farther away and covered up and thicker...so can't tell noises the same as when your tail bones are right on the motor.
 

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I just replaced my starter clutch. It was bad in there. The spragues were pretty nasty looking. I am going to get the oil warm and change the oil and filter again. Oh well. Hope it all works out, but I am curious how loose the oil pump chain should be. I am going to try to upload a video. Thank you.
 

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FD, that is a rough job on changing out the starter clutch. Did you get the "upgraded' one with the extra support bushings? For the starter on mine, I took it apart, cleaned it up and put it back together, just been careful about starting process and making sure the tune was good on the bike to help things out. The body bolts on the starter, the long ones the run the length of it should be straight. If they are very twisted or something, then I would look hard for a replacement. If they are still in line, then you should have a bit of time to track down another starter.
Unfortunately I don't have any advice on the oil pump chain.
 

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Yes it was a rough job, but I had a Millwright helping me, so it was no problem for him. "Just Parts" he said to me. It was a bit daunting to me, but he knew what he was doing. He studied it out and everything. I did get a beefier clutch than the OEM one, so we should be good for awhile. There were metal shavings everywhere, so we cleansed it out the best we could and I will be changing oil and filter again in a few hundred miles. I hope I am done with repairs for a long time. Thanks for you consideration on these mounting situations.
 
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