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Last year, I installed a Memphis Shades "El Paso" windshield on my 950 V-Star. The "El Paso" was one of the few models which they make, which is recommended for a 950 V Star. It wasn't cheap. I opted for the quick release version. Although I'm happy with the quality of the product, I'm very unhappy with every other aspect. This windshield comes in heights of 13", 15", 17", and 19". Since I'm only 5'6" tall, I opted for their 15" windshield. I love how it looks on the bike!

Unfortunately, after installing this windshield on the bike, my head suffers more wind buffeting than with no windshield at all. I looked into the matter and discovered that Memphis Shades and other windshield manufacturers recommend that the proper windshield height should be about the same height as a riders' nose (or lips). So.....I took a yardstick and clamped it to the windshield with one end of that yardstick at the bottom of the windshield (just above the headlight). I "looped" a string around the yardstick so that the string loop could slide up and down, and attached a line level to the string. I held the other end of the string in my teeth and had my wife slide the string up the stick until the bubble in the level indicated that everything was level. Well...it seems that I need a 21-22" windshield height!!!! I'm not sure how the manufacturer can say this models fits a 950 V-Star when a person 5'6" tall needs one (according to their own height recommendations),which is 2-3" taller than anything they make. ???

Anyway, I believe there may be other options available from other manufacturers which might provide the proper height. I'm hoping to find something that is quick release and does not mount to the handlebars. The tourer-model OEM windshields look OK and appear to be taller than what I have....but unless they changed something they didn't offer them in a quick release version. I'm also concerned that the OEM models might be too high. I'd rather look over the windshield than through it.

Does anyone have any suggestions for something that might work for me? 950 riders....what are you using? I hope to take some long trips and those might be more comfortable if I had a proper windshield.

Thanks for any help anyone can provide!
 

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Try adding some lowers. Its amazing how much of the air flow happening "behind" the windshield actually comes from below and not above.

I don't have a clue if Memphis Shades sells lowers that fit the 950. If not its not all that difficult and actually quite fun to fabricate your own if you have access to some basic tools. Here's a link showing how a guy made some and also a pic of my home-made ones on my Vulcan: https://www.instructables.com/id/Motorcycle-Lowers-low-deflectors/

In the picture of mine you can look through the clear plastic and see that (at the time the pic was taken) had not yet trimmed off the excess worm gear that clamps the things to the forks. You can make your own, of your own design and shell-out around $50 or less. Mine even have a notch in them so they don't contact the air filter housings when at full-turn.

Lowers will help in air flow control. They may, or may not, completely eliminate your head buffeting but they should surely won't hurt and add to the overall good appearance of your machine.

As to the height of your windshield, 22" seems like a lot. I'm not intimately familiar with the physical layout of the 950 or of your specific Memphis Shades product. Can that thing adjust upward? I have a National Cycles Low Boy Heavy Duty on my 750 and its set at around 17" high (I think. For some reason that number keeps popping into my head.) The windshield itself can adjust 3" or so. Anyway, the top is right around mouth height, and between that and my lowers, my 5'11" height doesn't experience but the faintest trace of buffeting. Surely not enough for me to be upset with.

Anyhow, my suggestion is to try adding lowers first. They will change the air flow from what it is to something better.
 

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Something doesnt sound right with your measurement of the needed windshield height

Im 6' tall and have a 19" Memphis Shades "fats" on my 650 with the trigger locks.

were you sitting down on the bike like you would be sitting while riding?

do you have the windshield angle forward and back adjusted so its leaning as far back as possible?

You are 6" shorter than me, so maybe 3" lower from the seat to nose, so I dont see how you could need a 22" WS.

also you measure the WS from the top of its curve over the headlight, not from the headlight itself. you should be able to also adjust it up and down, so there is a bigger or smaller gap between the WS and headlight bucket.

but look at the rake angle first, and push it all the way forwards so its standing up as straight as possible.

Its also possible you have the top or bottom mounting brackets twisted too far one way or the other, making the windshield lean back further than its suppose to. When you turn the handlebars stop to stop, does the WS hit anything on the bike?

Take another shot at the setup, the instructions of the trigger mount are not very clear, and it is possible to put the clamps on the wrong way.

Look at the photo of my 650 in the garage page
<- over there - click on the thumbnail on the garage page to see the full size photo.

I think I had the WS raked as far forward as it would go in that photo - see how its more vertical than the front forks? you should be able to lean yours that far forward.

If your WS is in line with the forks, or leaning back even more, thats too much rake.
 

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...if you angle your WS as far forward as possible and pull it up in its slots as far as it will go, then a 15" WS might still be an inch or two too low for you.

If you get on the highway at 65mph and feel your eyes blurring and your head vibrating, try ducking your head down till you are looking thru the WS. The buffeting should stop at that point.

Lowers or "fork deflectors" might help, but if the WS is still too low when its all the way forward, they may not stop the buffeting.
 

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Hi, Mike,

I ran into a similar thing with my 650 custom - I'm 5' -10" but a long torso and short legs - 30" inseam.

I started with a 19" Memphis Shades Fats and ended up with a 21" - even then I had to reverse the upper and lower clamps to get a more rearward windshield slant which eventually got rid of the buffeting - I also added the fork deflectors which helped a bit but the most noticeable was the slant.

Here's a pic of the 21" before the reversal of the clamps and increased slant.


 

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Try adding some lowers. Its amazing how much of the air flow happening "behind" the windshield actually comes from below and not above.

I don't have a clue if Memphis Shades sells lowers that fit the 950. If not its not all that difficult and actually quite fun to fabricate your own if you have access to some basic tools. Here's a link showing how a guy made some and also a pic of my home-made ones on my Vulcan: https://www.instructables.com/id/Motorcycle-Lowers-low-deflectors/

In the picture of mine you can look through the clear plastic and see that (at the time the pic was taken) had not yet trimmed off the excess worm gear that clamps the things to the forks. You can make your own, of your own design and shell-out around $50 or less. Mine even have a notch in them so they don't contact the air filter housings when at full-turn.

Lowers will help in air flow control. They may, or may not, completely eliminate your head buffeting but they should surely won't hurt and add to the overall good appearance of your machine.

As to the height of your windshield, 22" seems like a lot. I'm not intimately familiar with the physical layout of the 950 or of your specific Memphis Shades product. Can that thing adjust upward? I have a National Cycles Low Boy Heavy Duty on my 750 and its set at around 17" high (I think. For some reason that number keeps popping into my head.) The windshield itself can adjust 3" or so. Anyway, the top is right around mouth height, and between that and my lowers, my 5'11" height doesn't experience but the faintest trace of buffeting. Surely not enough for me to be upset with.

Anyhow, my suggestion is to try adding lowers first. They will change the air flow from what it is to something better.
Chris, Thank you for your reply and for the interesting info on fabricating lowers. The Memphis Shades windshield that I have is not adjustable for either height or tilt. The windshield follows the same anglulation as the fork. I wish I could raise or tilt it as that might solve my problem. The 950 and the 750 might have a different seat heights and the fork angles. I'm not sure. Adjustability would help....but the windshield I currently have... is a few inches lower than my chin.
 

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Hi, Mike,

I ran into a similar thing with my 650 custom - I'm 5' -10" but a long torso and short legs - 30" inseam.

I started with a 19" Memphis Shades Fats and ended up with a 21" - even then I had to reverse the upper and lower clamps to get a more rearward windshield slant which eventually got rid of the buffeting - I also added the fork deflectors which helped a bit but the most noticeable was the slant.

Here's a pic of the 21" before the reversal of the clamps and increased slant.


Nice looking bike! I too have a normal torso and short legs...which means I should not be having this issue. My inseam is 27". Unfortunately, the QR clamps I have are not reversible or adjustable for either height or slant. I think I need to start over completely and look at other brands....just wondering which brand and model.
 

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SNIP I think I need to start over completely and look at other brands....just wondering which brand and model.
I would look at the Yamaha OEM windshield as it comes in several heights = probably is pricier than aftermarket but proven to work and the dealer may even have a bike with one installed - other windshield company is National Cycle - they have an excellent name - go for the touring windshields as these seem to give the best coverage.

I'd also give serious consideration to the Memphis Shades Fats which come in heights 13", 15", 17" 19", 21" - they are wider than NC and easy to install and have the quick release mounting.

Another consideration especially as you're from the north is the Memphis Shades batwing fairing and 12" windshield - it was my final addition to the 650 for cold weather riding - it almost seemed that much better than a windshield - I think you're in the same weather boat as I am here in southern Ontario - cold winters and summers that don't get that warm that you have to remove the windshield - if you did the MS batwing is the same quick disconnect as the Memphis Shades Fats windshield.

My gut reaction is go straight to the batwing.
 

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I would look at the Yamaha OEM windshield as it comes in several heights = probably is pricier than aftermarket but proven to work and the dealer may even have a bike with one installed - other windshield company is National Cycle - they have an excellent name - go for the touring windshields as these seem to give the best coverage.
I'll look into both of those....thanks!
 

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Something doesnt sound right with your measurement of the needed windshield height

Im 6' tall and have a 19" Memphis Shades "fats" on my 650 with the trigger locks.

were you sitting down on the bike like you would be sitting while riding?

do you have the windshield angle forward and back adjusted so its leaning as far back as possible?

You are 6" shorter than me, so maybe 3" lower from the seat to nose, so I dont see how you could need a 22" WS.

also you measure the WS from the top of its curve over the headlight, not from the headlight itself. you should be able to also adjust it up and down, so there is a bigger or smaller gap between the WS and headlight bucket.

but look at the rake angle first, and push it all the way forwards so its standing up as straight as possible.

Its also possible you have the top or bottom mounting brackets twisted too far one way or the other, making the windshield lean back further than its suppose to. When you turn the handlebars stop to stop, does the WS hit anything on the bike?

Take another shot at the setup, the instructions of the trigger mount are not very clear, and it is possible to put the clamps on the wrong way.

Look at the photo of my 650 in the garage page
<- over there - click on the thumbnail on the garage page to see the full size photo.

I think I had the WS raked as far forward as it would go in that photo - see how its more vertical than the front forks? you should be able to lean yours that far forward.

If your WS is in line with the forks, or leaning back even more, thats too much rake.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I was sitting on the bike. I'm aware of the inch of space between the headlight and bottom of the W/S. My windshield is not adjustable for height or tilt and the angle of it is exactly the same as the fork angle. The QR mounting brackets only seem to work one way. The photos of your 650 appears to be taller than my windshield.

Once our weather gets better and the snow melts, (we're having a blizzard), I'll take photos of me on the bike with and without my yardstick and level.

I like the looks of your 650. :)
 

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... My windshield is not adjustable for height or tilt and the angle of it is exactly the same as the fork angle. ...
that does not sound right. I have the Memphis trigger quick release. You loosen the allen bolts where the top hooks into the brackets, and they are slotted and move forwards or back. The frame on the windshield that attaches to the frame on the mount also has slotted holes that allows you to slide the windshield up or down.

Head buffeting is a very common problem on cruiser bikes with these classic style of windshields. I cant believe Memphis would make any windshield mount that did not allow any adjustments, because changing the angle is the only way to dial it out and get the right flow over your helmet.
 

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I might end up with the Yamaha brand windshield. Are they adjustable for height and tilt when using the QR mounts? The windshields that come with the touring models look nice, but I've never tried them for height nor looked at them closely.


it says there is a 2" height adjustment but i don't remember ever needing to adjust anything
 

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I've always bought Natl Cycle. Mines a shorty. I forget the inches, maybe 18" but I loathe tall windshields and my seat sits low anyway. The angle is not adjustable but is truly quick release. No unscrewing anything. Pops on and off easily. I get some buffeting on the highway. It's annoying but less annoying than hanging on for dear life without it. Quality workmanship.
 

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that does not sound right. I have the Memphis trigger quick release. You loosen the allen bolts where the top hooks into the brackets, and they are slotted and move forwards or back. The frame on the windshield that attaches to the frame on the mount also has slotted holes that allows you to slide the windshield up or down.

Head buffeting is a very common problem on cruiser bikes with these classic style of windshields. I cant believe Memphis would make any windshield mount that did not allow any adjustments, because changing the angle is the only way to dial it out and get the right flow over your helmet.
KCW... After reading your post, I went out to my garage and removed the windshield and examined it closely. The windshield has no slots, the QR mounts have no slots, and there is no adjustment anywhere for anything. :frown: It turns out that it was a poor choice for this bike. Before I purchased it, I went to three local dealers. None had anything to look at on their showroom floor. None had one in stock. The best any of them could do is show me pictures and prices, and they all thought that 15" was the right size and so that's what I got. It's looking like this is going to be an expensive lesson, which is why I joined this forum. It was much easier to find proper tires.

Here's a link to the windshield I have. https://memphisshades.com/collections/memphis-shades-products/products/el-paso-sportshield-windshield?variant=43684662220
Here's a link to a photo of the QR brackets. (Note no slots or adjustments). https://e.ridersdiscount.com/generated/873/1/379873-memphis-shades-sportshield-mount-kit-for-yamaha-v-star-950_1000_1000.jpg

I hope to send photos of me on the bike after this blizzard ends.
 

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Freaking blizzard right! Took this week off to ride because it was supposed to be in 60's.
 

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Im afraid from everything you have posted the only thing your windshield will be good for is riding in cold weather below 55mph. I ride down to 40F with the WS on my 650, and it makes a noticeable difference not having the cold wind hitting your body, even with all my wind breaker layers and cold riding gear.

If others have not already said it, if you really want an 85mph ride-all-day windshield you should be looking at getting a bat wing. Personally I dont think wings look right on a cruiser bike, but if you want a nice air pocket to sit in while riding long distances at interstate speeds, that is the way to go.
 

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With all the tweaking it takes to get a vintage style windshield dialed in for each rider, one would think a dealer or MC shop would have half a dozen on hand, they could put one on your bike, you take it out on the highway, and come back with either a smile on your face

or your eyes pointed sideways like a Walleye... ok.. lets try a 23 incher....

This is a good time to point out, if you are getting head buffeting at highway speeds, do not keep riding

your vision is blurred because your eyeballs are shaking in their sockets like jello, and you get an instant headache because your brain is vibrating against your skull - you are getting a slow mild concussion. None of this is good for you. Its not just 'wind' hitting your helmet, its turbulent chaotic pulsing air, like a pulsing air blaster shaking your head at 20Hz.

you are better off taking the windshield off the bike and riding in the smooth laminar air flowing over you, or getting off the interstate and taking a secondary road at 55mph, where the air does not become turbulent.
 
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