I do believe that both remotes can be operating at the same time. I will double-check though and make sure.

 

Just curious...where did you get the second key remote? Aftermarket or from the dealer?

 

I got mine from Rockymountainatvmc.com. You can also get them from partzilla. Between $150-$175. Not cheap but better than the dealer. They are yamaha key fobs.

 

Online... dealer.
I don't think there are any after-market ones.

 

2DF-86261-00-00

Partzilla

 

Thx, just placed my order. I got confused for a moment cause the 'key' listed in the parts diagram is the blank mechanical key that lives inside the fob.

 

Yamaha Motorcycle 2018 OEM Parts Diagram for Electrical - 2 | Partzilla.com

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Hi folks, I am not trying to high-jack the thread but I have a concern that is somewhat serious in my area.

I live in Northern Virginia, in a townhouse with no Garage. All our vehicles are either parked in front of our house in the two spaces the HOA allows per home; or out on the street away from the house.

I have lived here since 2011. Every year since them, our vehicles have been broken into and ransacked. The police told us they are looking for firearms and when they hit, they hit the neighborhood in small groups. They go through several cars within a few minutes and move on. The only thing stolen over the years has been Pretty Pillion's prescription glasses.

Now then, when I parked my '99 4Runner away from the house and down on the street, they broke the window to gain access. The cops also said this is normal as the would-be thief either didn't have a fob stealer or they could not pick up my fob signal from there.

For motorcycles, twice in 2019, new HD Street Glides were started and rode away in the wee hours of the morning never to be seen again. I spoke with one of my neighbors who lost his bike this way and the police told him that the thief used a fob stealer device to start the bike and ride away. They had video of the theft to show exactly how fast it happened.

I know that a dedicated thief will most likely succeed and I have insurance that will help to some extent if I am robbed. To that end though, none of my bikes have keyless starts and the 2017 pickup I now have does not either. The truck has been parked in front of the house and even when the older Hyundai has been broken into with the fob stealer, the truck has not. I have watched on video the thieves try to open the door but move on right away tot he next vehicle.

I hope no one here ever has their bike stolen. it will be heart breaking to say the least.

Below is a 2015 article about the motorcycle key fob risks which your bikes may not have as much risk being newer technology. The second article is newer but focuses mainly on cars.

Do You Have "Keyless" Ignition on Your Bike? Is It Safe? - Asphalt & Rubber (asphaltandrubber.com)
Security flaw in key fobs lets hackers unlock your car (komando.com)

 

Boog, this is good info to know. The pouches I think that are mentioned probably work similar to what I've seen for protecting the chips in your credit card info from getting stolen right out of your wallet.
At least on our bikes, the RF must be fairly weak as you have to be in s small bubble standing right next to the bike. So I guess you have to be more careful when parked in a crowed area with a lot of people around.
With my 2019 Ram truck, the remote start works a far as 50-100 feet and through some walls. I start it from inside at work. Luckily in that case I'm in a secured area, but more it's vulnerable in public areas.
The truck remote start I like especially in the winter. The bike, I wish had a key even before hearing this, not sure there's a huge gain, just more chance for headache's.

 

Remember also, the key fob turns itself off after several days of not being used... it may be slightly longer than an actual "Several" days.
You have to come to the bike and hold one of the buttons on the remote for it to connect again, otherwise the bike stays alarmed.

Of course, I've had a car stolen in the past that had a steering club and an alarm... the police at the time said that thieves will always find a way to steal it.
The best "Alarm" was to chain it to my leg! - Great advice!

 

This looks like a better option!

 

A pouch with a Faraday cage.

I think my wife needs a Faraday cage for her purse.

 

I purchased a new spare key fob. I am trying to program it and have made it to the part where I enter in the Original 6 digit code. Then am confused as to what I do after that. Do I hit the lock and then unlock button 3 times? Or start over with the center button and then the emergency button 3 times?

 

press the lock button then the unlock button on the tank... do this 3 times.
You will then see the small red light on the NEW remote is lit up... Press either button on the NEW remote until the bike responds.

You've now programmed the new remote.

 

I'm not sure what to do after I have successfully entered the Original 6 digit code. After successfully entering the original key code the security light stays solid and then what do I do?

 

press the lock button then the unlock button on the tank... do this 3 times.

This takes it back out of the programming mode.

 

Did you program the new code in? it is similar to entering the original code.

 

No. That's my question.

 

Note: You must start this procedure using the original code in step 3.

 

Ok. I'll try again tomorrow. But to clarify what you are saying. Center button, emergency button 3x, enter Original code.....then repeat this step with the original code? Then lock unlock 3x and the new key fob should light up? No need to enter the new fob's 6 digit code?

 

It IS a slightly confusing process - but I just did it with my partzilla key fob this morning and it was a success. Just follow the steps listed in the very first message of this post...or read and follow the directions from the service manual listed later in this post and you will make it. No....you do NOT repeat the original code and No, you do not need to program the new key code...following your specific quote here: Center button, emergency button 3x, enter original code and then while the smart key indicator light (on the dash) is on hit the lock, unlock buttons on the tank 3 times (total of 6 hits), and then the little tiny red indicator on the fob itself will light up for 10 seconds...while it is on just hit either the lock or unlock buttons and you are done...if the key fob was on...I honestly have a hard time telling whether it is on or not - my kids say that it makes a beep but my ears are so bad that I can't hear it...but I tried it once one way and it didn't work, tried it again the other way and it worked just fine. Good luck! I had to read the steps about 10 times...I'd get somewhere, forget the next step while a light was flashing, read the book again and by then had to start over but eventually I got so good at the first 10 steps that I eventually made it...while hopping on one leg, just for good luck...

 

Don't forget to click your heels together twice and spin around 3 times before you get started. It is a weird and cumbersome process for sure. You would have thought Yamaha could have made it a whole lot simpler if you have a current activated FOB.

 

Got it first try. The original post was a bit confusing but is obvious now after doing it correctly. Thanks for the help! 👍

 

One last thing....did the Eluder come with a spare physical key that I could pair with the new spare fob? I had thought it did but now don't see it anywhere.

 

The Eluder should have come with 2 keys and 1 FOB. Mine did

 

Directions worked a treat, thanks for the post.

 

Well I finally bought a spare fob now that my bike is back with me and hopefully for awhile.
I read some horror stories about folks losing the fob and the cost to get the unit replaced.
After I heard about someone dropped their and didn’t noticed and another vehicle road over it the fob needed to be replaced so the whole unit needed to be replaced.
I guess I didn’t really realize how vulnerable the fob really was.
Anyway, I wanted to make sure I need to use the card that came with the new fob that has a different code.
See picture. This looks like the card that came with the original fob and wasn’t sure what this will be needed for after the new fob is registered or needed at all.
Did anyone else have this card?
Before I attempted this new fob registration I thought I would ask, also is there any risk in deleting the original key and getting locked out…
Sorry if this was mentioned before.

 

Well I finally bought a spare fob now that my bike is back with me and hopefully for awhile.
I read some horror stories about folks losing the fob and the cost to get the unit replaced.
After I heard about someone dropped their and didn’t noticed and another vehicle road over it the fob needed to be replaced so the whole unit needed to be replaced.
I guess I didn’t really realize how vulnerable the fob really was.
Anyway, I wanted to make sure I need to use the card that came with the new fob that has a different code.
See picture. This looks like the card that came with the original fob and wasn’t sure what this will be needed for after the new fob is registered or needed at all.
Did anyone else have this card?
Before I attempted this new fob registration I thought I would ask, also is there any risk in deleting the original key and getting locked out…
Sorry if this was mentioned before.

Yes, you'll need the new keycode to program the bike to recognize that new FOB. Then the bike will recognize either one of them.

I kept both of my cards, just so I'd be sure to have the keycode. I also took pictures of them and documented them in my SVTC spreadsheet that I keep all my maintenance, mileage and parts list in. Once you have both FOBs programmed either code will work if you have to do the manual override business (in case of low battery or other temporary situation). Also, I think you'll need the original keycode in case you lose/damage your physical key and need a new one cut to have key access to your trunk and bags.

 

Good Luck! I deleted as I saw same was posted earlier.